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Old 06-30-2008, 06:59 PM    (permalink
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:07 PM    (permalink
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Im expecting a big year out of Jennings and I mean real big. But right now Boldin is better.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:10 PM    (permalink
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I will agree with you that Boldin is definitely better than Jennings. I'm a little confused as to your definition of productivity though. For a little experiment I will give two hypothetical WR's college stats and you tell me which is more productive in your opinion.

Receiver #1
Career (4 years)
160 Receptions | 1943 Yards | 20 TDs
Best Season
59 Receptions | 772 Yards | 8 TDs

Receiver #2
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206 Receptions | 2822 Yards | 20 TDs
Best Season
122 Receptions | 1606 Yards | 11 TDs


Edit: While it may have been lost because I was very crafty and subtle, those aren't actually random receivers. Receiver #1 is Early Doucet and Receiver #2 is Jordy Nelson. I will give you that Doucet was a more productive high schooler though.
Doucet didn't play a full season either (Senior). The numbers will be skewed. I applaud the try though. I really do.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:12 PM    (permalink
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Doucet didn't play a full season either (Senior). The numbers will be skewed. I applaud the try though. I really do.
Why did Doucet only average 9.2 ypc as a senior? I realize he was hurt, but 9.2 is pathetic for a #1 WR.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:24 PM    (permalink
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Doucet didn't play a full season either (Senior). The numbers will be skewed. I applaud the try though. I really do.
Just please explain to me your thought process as to why Doucet was more productive. I've given you the stats I look at when I think about productivity and you laughed at me. Just explain what your thought process is.
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Why did Doucet only average 9.2 ypc as a senior? I realize he was hurt, but 9.2 is pathetic for a #1 WR.
We spread the ball out more. more 3-4 WR sets gave us a lot more options. That with the 4 rotating RB's gave lsu more options.

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Just please explain to me your thought process as to why Doucet was more productive. I've given you the stats I look at when I think about productivity and you laughed at me. Just explain what your thought process is.
I'll let Doucet's play finish the argument for me.

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Old 06-30-2008, 08:46 PM    (permalink
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I'll let Doucet's play finish the argument for me.
He might be able to finish the argument if you could at least start one.

You said that Doucet was more productive in college. Tell me how.
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And what does a rotation have to do with YPC? At least mention that he runs a lot of screens and that brings it down a significant amount.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:19 PM    (permalink
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We spread the ball out more. more 3-4 WR sets gave us a lot more options. That with the 4 rotating RB's gave lsu more options.

I'll let Doucet's play finish the argument for me.
You seem lost in your argument. I don't doubt your opinion on Doucet, but you haven't said anything convincing in the least.
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We spread the ball out more. more 3-4 WR sets gave us a lot more options. That with the 4 rotating RB's gave lsu more options.
How does that affect YPC?
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:56 AM    (permalink
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As much as I love the GB WR corps, they are not going to have Favre throwing to them this season. An unsung member of GB's corp is Ruvell Martin, 6'4" udfa that just makes plays when given the opportunity and has the lowest drop percentage on the team since he's been with the Packers. We'll see for the group how they look this year. If they come close to the number sthey had last year, then they'll have proved something.

I like the starters for the Browns and Cardinals, but on game day New England has the best group IMO, as I think even without Brady that group would still produce.
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I would have to say its Detroit.

Roy Williams (best: 82, 1300, 7)


Calvin Johnson (best: best WR prospect ever)


Mike Furrey (best: 98, 1100, 6)


Shaun McDonald (best: 70, 940, 6)


I think GB (Driver, Jennings, Jones, Nelson) and Colts (Harrison, Wayne, Gonzalez) come close.
Roy Williams is the most overrated WR in the league.

Reasons: Only gone over 1000 yards 1 time, only stayed healthy for a full season 1 time in 4 years, never has had double digit TD's, very inconsistent.

I thought it was a joke when people were saying they would take him over Boldin or Ocho this offseason.
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Green Bay is my choice.
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I say it's gotta be New England.

I believe that there are a couple receivers that are gonna take off this year on other teams that are gonna change things, (greg jennings, Holmes, calvin johnson) but right now its gotta be New England. Randy Moss is an absolute beast, he just broke a couple wr records, and he may not be their biggest weapon. Wes welker is just about as much a guarantee for offense as Moss is, and that's scary.
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quick stat: steve beaston-8 catchtes, 92 yards, 0 tds. wtf
4th Receiver? its not like arizona played like GB and had 4-5 Receivers almost every other snap

btw wicket: Jordy Nelson is God/Chuck Norris
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My Rankings:

New England
Arizona
Green Bay
Detroit(If they live up to potential)
Cleveland


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