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Old 06-25-2008, 02:33 PM    (permalink
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im done here you guys are pretty stupid and stubborn
and you are a homer.

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and you are a homer.

actually im not. i just watched him every game last season and i know what he is capable of. i like d-walker more than davis, because davis' attributes would suit him better at wr
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actually im not. i just watched him every game last season and i know what he is capable of. i like d-walker more than davis, because davis' attributes would suit him better at wr
yep, questionable hands are an awesome attribute for WR.
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yep, questionable hands are an awesome attribute for WR.
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actually im not. i just watched him every game last season and i know what he is capable of. i like d-walker more than davis, because davis' attributes would suit him better at wr
Wait a damn minute. Weren't you just saying how great of a blocker he is?
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Wait a damn minute. Weren't you just saying how great of a blocker he is?
Yes he was. He is now comparing Davis to Terrell Owens.
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STAT W.HORE. are you stupid? every time he catches the ball, he's surrounded by defenders and he get swarmed. what do you expect him to do? leap into the sky like the incredible hulk?
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maybe...........



Okay fine, yes, I was expecting him to leap into the sky like the incredible hulk.
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Wait a damn minute. Weren't you just saying how great of a blocker he is?
he's a great blocker, but his potential at wr is off the charts, and look at the niner's current wr core
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So Davis has the body of Zeus and the catching ability (and durability) of Helen Keller.
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he's a great blocker, but his potential at wr is off the charts, and look at the niner's current wr core
What would make him a better WR than TE?
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What would make him a better WR than TE?
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What would make him a better WR than TE?
his speed would be better utilized outside and he would cause bigger matchup problems. a 6'3 255lb wr that's faster than most db's? think about it
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his speed would be better utilized outside and he would cause bigger matchup problems. a 6'3 255lb wr that's faster than most db's? think about it
Depends on the DBs he is faster than. He has to have the agility as well to play outside. I would need to see it be done on a consistent basis to see if it would work or not. I think quicker Cbs would do fine against him. But it would be interesting to see him on the outside as a flanker once and while.
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his speed would be better utilized outside and he would cause bigger matchup problems. a 6'3 255lb wr that's faster than most db's? think about it
Why wouldn't he be effective as a TE? His speed is just as useful stretching the seam or running ins/outs.
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If I am not mistaken, I remember reading on the SF MB, that Davis had issues with the playbook. Is that true? Is he a slow learner?
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If I am not mistaken, I remember reading on the SF MB, that Davis had issues with the playbook. Is that true? Is he a slow learner?
I read everything 49ers and haven't heard that yet.
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his speed would be better utilized outside and he would cause bigger matchup problems. a 6'3 255lb wr that's faster than most db's? think about it
Putting him at WR full-time would be a terrible idea. His speed is fine but at 255 his COD skills are not amazing. Plus his strength would be much better used in-line. Maybe flex him out on long third downs, but other than that he is more versatile as a TE.

Also, about his inability to learn the playbook. I don't think that was ever proven, one of the 49ers bloggers (either Maccico or Barrows) made that assumption.
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I read everything 49ers and haven't heard that yet.
The guy below I guess must have the read the same thing. I heard or read what the other member just said.

If that's the case, assuming that's true, then it would hard to move him to WR. A wr has to memorize the passing tree for outside WR, which is split end or flanker, and then have to memorize inside WR routes as well. On top of that, you have to remember alignments above the numbers, base, or nasty, which is closer splits.

All that is very hard to remember, so if he can't get TE routes and blocking assignments down, then it would be very, very hard to remember the WRs manuel.
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AFC TE's blow NFC TE's out of the water.:)
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I never thought the TE rankings would generate so much discussion, I think this is the most of any so far.
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AFC TE's are just nasty. They have a couple guys who will be among the best ever when it is all said and done.
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Which player would Davis create the bigger matchup problem for?
5'11 CB that runs a 4.40, Davis is playing WR/Flanker
6'3 OLB that runs a 4.7, Davis is at TE

This is a serious question. I realize 40s don't dictate these things but I needed an easy relative measure of speed.
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Which player would Davis create the bigger matchup problem for?
5'11 CB that runs a 4.40, Davis is playing WR/Flanker
6'3 OLB that runs a 4.7, Davis is at TE

This is a serious question. I realize 40s don't dictate these things but I needed an easy relative measure of speed.
Obviously the LB will have a harder time covering Vernon Davis, but after the catch the CB will have a hell of a time bringing him down.
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Those two plays show that he's one of the best YAC TEs in the league? Please. He had 5 plays over 20 yards last season, none over 40.
What they just happened magically? Trent Dilfer also was throwing him the rock last season behind a terrible offense lead by a terrible offensive coordinator. That doesn't help his case. And I just gave you two examples and told you he's shrugged off defenders numerous times. I never told you those two particular examples defined his status did I? Please don't take my statements out of context. Watch the games and you'll understand.

Honestly in my opinion the only thing holding Vernon Davis back is the team he's on. It's not like he doesn't have the ability. He has proven he does already. Statistics don't tell the story.
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