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Old 07-03-2008, 01:54 PM    (permalink
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No Joe Staley at LT? Snubbed!

But for real, he is going to be a revelation at his natural position this year.
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Was it you who said he was an absolutely punishing back and a great receiver out of the backfield last year?
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I remember reading that. I believe it was right after the draft when somebody was reviewing the Packers draft, but I'm not sure who it was.
It was actually Steven Jackson he was talking about.
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Pretty spot on with Bengals players though I think Jonathan Joseph will have the biggest break out this season.
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A Bengal to start and finish the list, yay.
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No DeAngelo Williams love.
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Reggie Bush is going to have a monster year. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I hope so. I wouldn't mind seeing AJ Hawk doing well this year also.
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No DeAngelo Williams love.
It's gonna be kind of hard for DeAngelo to have a breakout year when you all just drafted a workhorse runningback in the first round
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I don't necessarily agree. Stewart still hasn't played a down in the NFL and even though I think he'll be a good player there's still a lot of ? marks in how his game will translate to the NFL.

I'm not forgetting Fox's seemingly passionate disdain for removing starters from the RB position either.



I don't mind the chances of Drew Stanton just quietly either. Everyone forgot about the kid after his season ending injury but I can't really see detroit plugging away with Kitna year after year to let a 2nd round pick chill on the sidelines for another season.
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I don't mind the chances of Drew Stanton just quietly either. Everyone forgot about the kid after his career ending injury but I can't really see detroit plugging away with Kitna year after year to let a 2nd round pick chill on the sidelines for another season.
Players usually fade off into the sunset after those. You know, when they actually happen.
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Great to see Jovan Haye and Arron Sears on the list because they definiteld deserve to be there. Another Buccaneers to watch out for is Jeremy Trueblood, who I absolutely love. I'm also partial to Paris Warren who tore up his ankle last pre-season. Hopefully he gets a chance on the team.
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Yeah he isn't exactly outperforming probowlers in Foxboro. I personally want more than 700 yards and 5 touchdowns from a "breakout" Wide receiver.
For a guy coming out of nowhere and no production what so ever before that? My point is I just don't like when somebody comes out and says this year will be Santonio Holmes breakout year, a guy that has already broken out, those are just numbers thrown out for Jackson, but he's still a great pick for a breakout player, he is already past Gaffney on the depth chart, and with his skill set it wouldn't be tough to put up 1000 yds.


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I have been noticing this guy since he performed at the combines, always thought he was physically gifted and when I did get to see him on the field he ALWAYS stood out, I wish I had seen more of him to know what to expect, but I am excited to see what he can do when his role gets increased...If I'm not mistaken almost all of those Hampton guys are doing pretty well that went to the combines together that year.
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No bear? :(

btw: Troy Williamson is gonna have a break out year? :D :D :D
Your not alone, No Lions love either even after we supposedly drafted the greatest prospect at WR ever...CJ "Jesus".

I would think he will have a better year than his rookie one. especially after he has had time to recover from his back injury.

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No bear? :(

btw: Troy Williamson is gonna have a break out year? :D :D :D
Prisco ain't blowing smoke: I went to the Jaguars mini-camp and Williamson looked great.

Now I'm not saying that he's going to breakout... but I can't discount the possibility. I could see him developing into a solid 3rd/Slot Receiver role and getting 800 yards and 4 TDs a year down the road.
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It was actually Steven Jackson he was talking about.
It was Brandon, I'm 99.99999999% sure.
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Prisco ain't blowing smoke: I went to the Jaguars mini-camp and Williamson looked great.

Now I'm not saying that he's going to breakout... but I can't discount the possibility. I could see him developing into a solid 3rd/Slot Receiver role and getting 800 yards and 4 TDs a year down the road.
He looked great in shorts.

He's got keary Colbert syndrome, he'll be lights out in the preseason, he'll probably have a massive grab in one of your PS games too, but then he'll go and do absolutely nothing for 16 weeks.
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i'm a little surprised that out of 30 players there are no panthers, it would seem we have a couple that could: hackett, marshall, deangelo. i would put any of them in instead of troy freakin williamson but w/e
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Again, why are you guys expecting a 3rd down RB to "breakout", please tell me what type of stats you are expecting from him that would qualify him to make this list.
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He's got keary Colbert syndrome, he'll be lights out in the preseason, he'll probably have a massive grab in one of your PS games too, but then he'll go and do absolutely nothing for 16 weeks.
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huh, where are you getting 3rd down back from? at best he'll be the starter receiving the majority of the carries for the season as stewart adapts to an nfl offense and at worst he'll be splitting carries evenly with stewart. the only reason williams wasn't in more plays last season is because fox didn't believe his pass blocking was up to scratch, apparently it's now improved so i guess the team has more confidence in him.
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huh, where are you getting 3rd down back from? at best he'll be the starter receiving the majority of the carries for the season as stewart adapts to an nfl offense and at worst he'll be splitting carries evenly with stewart. the only reason williams wasn't in more plays last season is because fox didn't believe his pass blocking was up to scratch, apparently it's now improved so i guess the team has more confidence in him.
Again, since you want him to be listed as a breakthrough player please tell me what type of stats your expecting...Don't just throw his name out without anything to back it up.
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Of course i did it for the Lawlzzzzz. We had a little run in on the Talib thread because of that. It's quite funny actually, how he tries denying it.
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Again, since you want him to be listed as a breakthrough player please tell me what type of stats your expecting
ok... somewhere in the region of 1500 APY and 10 TD's (although this might be lower if stewart gets the goalline carries)

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I just couldn't help it.
You waste time copying and pasting stuff, but you fail to realize not one of the players in that post are Panthers... awesome effort. Got anything to offer to a football conversation? Normally you just post crap, might be time to actually contribute?


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Again, since you want him to be listed as a breakthrough player please tell me what type of stats your expecting...Don't just throw his name out without anything to back it up.
As for DeAngelo Williams I expect totals in the vicinity of

280-290 (18 - 20 a game) carries
1250 yards (78 yards a game)
7 TDs (I expect Stewart to be a goal line vulture) somewhere around 45 receptions.

He's not really a third down back and never has been. He's more been a split carry kind of guy who's involved in specific packages. Obviously that was somewhat limited last year by the lack of legitimate threat at quarterback but he's shown he can make plays.

The above expectations aren't out of this world. In fact they're pretty common numbers for first time starters with experience.
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