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Old 05-03-2009, 02:43 PM    (permalink
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I see Sintim being a 3rd down pass rush specialist this year. His impact at SAM will be a year 2 thing. He's not ready to start at SAM this year, he's way too raw.

He will be part of our pass rush rotation though. He won't be a full time DE by any means, but we don't need him to be. He'll be a great rush guy for us, and just make us that much deeper.


This might sound crazy, but don't be surprised if Barden has a bigger impact on our team this year than we anticipate. Because he's so big and strong, he doesn't have to be very polished to make an impact. His sheer size and speed and strength makes him a matchup problem everytime he steps on the field. All he has to learn how to do to make an impact is get off the press, which I think he can do fairly quickly.

He's smart too, and doesn't get enough credit for his speed. Plax was a 4.55 guy, and so is Barden. Barden ran a 4.51 at his pro day. Don't sleep on Barden.
Good point about Barden. He really reminds me of Marques Colston in a lot of ways. Colston has better hands, but Barden is similar in the sense that he's big, not exactly a speedster but has very good athleticism and can go up and grab the ball too.

Plus they both played against lesser competition in college.
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Good point about Barden. He really reminds me of Marques Colston in a lot of ways. Colston has better hands, but Barden is similar in the sense that he's big, not exactly a speedster but has very good athleticism and can go up and grab the ball too.

Plus they both played against lesser competition in college.
saw that comparison a few months ago, i agree. He has the potential to be as good as what Marques Colston was, and maybe more considering that there are a large amount of small corners and average safeties in our division and conference
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is it bad I still don't trust our WR corp and wouldn't mind seeing us pull a trade for *gulp* ochocinco? I know he's a ******* nutcase, but in all seriousness, he'd put us over the top, and I honestly believe a change of scenery would do him good. getting away from all those felons and all...
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is it bad I still don't trust our WR corp and wouldn't mind seeing us pull a trade for *gulp* ochocinco? I know he's a ******* nutcase, but in all seriousness, he'd put us over the top, and I honestly believe a change of scenery would do him good. getting away from all those felons and all...
Depends on what your giving up I suppose. He would help us on the field but Coughlin wouldn't put up with one bit of his other antics. I don't see Reese pulling off a trade for him.
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is it bad I still don't trust our WR corp and wouldn't mind seeing us pull a trade for *gulp* ochocinco? I know he's a ******* nutcase, but in all seriousness, he'd put us over the top, and I honestly believe a change of scenery would do him good. getting away from all those felons and all...
i dont want him on my team, i dont want him to take all the attention and refer to himself in third person nickname. Plus he'd probably put ocho cinco on the back of his uniform.

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i would like to see us sign marvin harrison though.

and trade for MICHAEL HUFF PLEASE
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i dont want him on my team, i dont want him to take all the attention and refer to himself in third person nickname. Plus he'd probably put ocho cinco on the back of his uniform.

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i would like to see us sign marvin harrison though.

and trade for MICHAEL HUFF PLEASE
Harrison is finished. I watched him play a lot last year and he is just no where near the player he used to be. I'd rather beg Toomer to come back than get Harrison.
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Harrison is finished. I watched him play a lot last year and he is just no where near the player he used to be. I'd rather beg Toomer to come back than get Harrison.
Sad but true. I got to see Marvin Harrison play last year and it made me sad.

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i agree, but still who else is out there, i doubt toomer will come back, the relationship between NYG and him has been bad since the superbowl.
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on michael huff:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2...ty-challenged/

http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2008/0...trading-block/


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i agree, but still who else is out there, i doubt toomer will come back, the relationship between NYG and him has been bad since the superbowl.
There is no one out there but that doesn't mean we have to sign an old bad football player to just take up room. Get ready to go into battle with the WR's we have now.
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No Chad. He's definitely not what I want. I'm still open to trading for Edwards, but I doubt it happens.

I'm not in favor of signing an old washed up veteran either, just for the sake of having a veteran. When you're done you're done. Let's give our young guys a chance to grow.

As for Huff, why do you guys want him? What has he done to make you think he's any good? He's been an absolute bust in the NFL.
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No Chad. He's definitely not what I want. I'm still open to trading for Edwards, but I doubt it happens.

I'm not in favor of signing an old washed up veteran either, just for the sake of having a veteran. When you're done you're done. Let's give our young guys a chance to grow.

As for Huff, why do you guys want him? What has he done to make you think he's any good? He's been an absolute bust in the NFL.
he was used absolutely wrong by the raiders, he's a pure FS with the ability to play the slot. They put him over TE's and try to make him a bigger run defender. KP and Huff would be good because KP could be a SS which is probably what he is best at anyway, Huff would be an ideal fit at FS for us.
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he was used absolutely wrong by the raiders, he's a pure FS with the ability to play the slot. They put him over TE's and try to make him a bigger run defender. KP and Huff would be good because KP could be a SS which is probably what he is best at anyway, Huff would be an ideal fit at FS for us.
but Kenny thrived at FS last year, is a better FS, and Huff will be cut within a year or 2 anyway. doesn't he still have his monster rookie contract too? I love him but still...
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but Kenny thrived at FS last year, is a better FS, and Huff will be cut within a year or 2 anyway. doesn't he still have his monster rookie contract too? I love him but still...
very true :/, im sure we'd be able to resign him if he'd be traded and be in a better environment with a probable backup job at first.

Kenny did do well at FS, but his strength without a doubt was his tackling, he was very good at flat coverage, so im 50/50 about it.
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Kenny can play either safety position and be a stud at it. I rather have him at SS bc Michael Johnson is much better suited for FS than SS. Even though I feel Kenny would be even better at FS.

Huff played FS this year for the Raiders. Same result. He's been a disappointment, through and through. He offers nothing in run support, and for such an acclaimed "ballhawk" he hasn't picked the ball off at all.

What difference is there between him and Michael Johnson? At this point, I honestly think Michael Johnson is better than him anyway. He's a better blitzer, provides just as much as a deep safety, and more in run support.
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I present to you the Giants draft class of 2009!!

Barden is freaking huge. Almost as big as Beatty.
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beckum looks solid, sintim looks kindof small...
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just watched all the minicamp interviews, every single player we picked has high character, hakeem nicks seems a little cocky/content but its not a bad thing.

I really like our draft. The two corners at the end now make more sense to me, they seem like high character, working, warriors who could surprise us.

We have a very bright future.
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i would take minicamp reports with a grain of salt. they almost always have rave reviews about rookies.

you won't know the real deal until the preseason starts. thats the truth.


every team has the same old story: this guy is in the best shape of his life, this guy has been studying film, this guy looks great, this guy is hungry and determined to prove people wrong, etc.

same story every year for every team. don't fall for the hype.
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you won't know the real deal until the preseason starts. thats the truth.


every team has the same old story: this guy is in the best shape of his life, this guy has been studying film, this guy looks great, this guy is hungry and determined to prove people wrong, etc.

same story every year for every team. don't fall for the hype.
i wasnt talking about what was said, i was just looking at how they handled themselves, alot of studdering but they all seem like good lockerroom guys.
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i wasnt talking about what was said, i was just looking at how they handled themselves, alot of studdering but they all seem like good lockerroom guys.
i hope so. i heard beckum has some minor character concerns from scouting reports ive read.

Bomar is a character concern as well. Strong lockerrooms usually fix that though. We have a real strong lockerroom, and any minor issues these guys have will be fixed from the guys.


Our team is pretty unified.
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