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Old 07-20-2008, 06:14 PM    (permalink
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The Redskins with Jason Taylor have a great shot at making the playoffs, Taylor can give that D that much needed pass rush they were lacking. I love this move for both teams, the fins' rid themselves of a player who doesn't want to be there anymore and the Redskins add a very good piece to there already good defense.
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Weird how a big blow turned into a much bigger gain in one day.

Taylor is worth a 2nd and a 6th imo.
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For those who don't think the skins are a contending team, you're wrong. We went through so many injuries and adversities last year, I mean Sean Taylor was murdered in the middle of the season and somehow this team dug down deep and made it into the playoffs. We also put up a good fight in Seattle almost winning in one of the toughest stadiums to play in the entire NFL. People hate on the skins for Snyder I guess but if you truly follow the NFL the Skins are a playoff caliber team and that alone makes you a SB contender.
For those that think the Skins are not a contending team (me, a lot of others), you're right! The Skins have a ton of weapons at the WR position now, thanks to the draft (skins fans didn't know what the draft was prior to this year) but hey, guess what, you still need someone to get them the ball!

People that assume others are hating just because of ownership are being a tad bit homerish. No one respects your team because you don't have a quarterback. Because you have little to no pass rush. This should improve your team, but no one respects them because you give up picks for James Thrash, and sign Brandon Lloyd (and give up a 3rd AND 4th round pick in the process) and Adam Archuleta to big bonuses.

They're not a Superbowl contender, because it'll be very hard for them to even make the playoffs. The Cowboys and Giants still own the NFC East, and the Eagles at this point, are probably a better team than Washington.
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I picked the Redskins to make the playoffs last summer, but I don't think they get back in this year. Although adding Taylor is a big deal to help their pass rush and overall defense.

But the offense under Zorn is going to need time to be installed and executed, the future is bright though with Devin Thomas and others joining the team. Of course there's the major addition of Gibbs gone and Zorn taking over.
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Wow the Redskins give up two draft picks for Taylor!
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:34 PM    (permalink
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For those that think the Skins are not a contending team (me, a lot of others), you're right! The Skins have a ton of weapons at the WR position now, thanks to the draft (skins fans didn't know what the draft was prior to this year) but hey, guess what, you still need someone to get them the ball!

People that assume others are hating just because of ownership are being a tad bit homerish. No one respects your team because you don't have a quarterback. Because you have little to no pass rush. This should improve your team, but no one respects them because you give up picks for James Thrash, and sign Brandon Lloyd (and give up a 3rd AND 4th round pick in the process) and Adam Archuleta to big bonuses.

They're not a Superbowl contender, because it'll be very hard for them to even make the playoffs. The Cowboys and Giants still own the NFC East, and the Eagles at this point, are probably a better team than Washington.
Of course we have flaws but so does your team but hey, I love the skins hate keep it coming.
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It will be interesting to see how that Washington run defense holds up. They were damn impressive last season, but with Carter and Taylor on the edges they are most certainly a bit undersized.
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It will be interesting to see how that Washington run defense holds up. They were damn impressive last season, but with Carter and Taylor on the edges they are most certainly a bit undersized.
Taylor will be able to hold his own, because even though he played mostly OLB in the Dolphins 3-4 system he lined up at DE occasionally and did fine, I wouldn't worry about Taylor's side, because he definitely can be a run stopper in a 4-3 but Carter is a different story.
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For those that think the Skins are not a contending team (me, a lot of others), you're right! The Skins have a ton of weapons at the WR position now, thanks to the draft (skins fans didn't know what the draft was prior to this year) but hey, guess what, you still need someone to get them the ball!
And that's why we'll be hearing a bunch of crap from ESPN about Favre to the Redskins all this week. Yay!
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Glad to get him out of the AFC East finally, the Phins are really in an all out overhaul. I honestly think this trade will benefit both teams, the Skins needed immediate help at end and Miami is rebuilding.
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For those that think the Skins are not a contending team (me, a lot of others), you're right! The Skins have a ton of weapons at the WR position now, thanks to the draft (skins fans didn't know what the draft was prior to this year) but hey, guess what, you still need someone to get them the ball!

People that assume others are hating just because of ownership are being a tad bit homerish. No one respects your team because you don't have a quarterback. Because you have little to no pass rush. This should improve your team, but no one respects them because you give up picks for James Thrash, and sign Brandon Lloyd (and give up a 3rd AND 4th round pick in the process) and Adam Archuleta to big bonuses.

They're not a Superbowl contender, because it'll be very hard for them to even make the playoffs. The Cowboys and Giants still own the NFC East, and the Eagles at this point, are probably a better team than Washington.
The Redskins will make the playoffs this year and with the addition of Zorn Jason Campbell will be able to tap into his potential on a more consistent basis and lead the offense to great things.
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And that's why we'll be hearing a bunch of crap from ESPN about Favre to the Redskins all this week. Yay!
lol I hear you on that, I guess I'll just watch comedy central for the next two weeks.
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I like that we got a 2nd rounder for him, that seems to be a steal at this point, but I am very sad to see him go. :(

Losing both Zach and Jason in the same offseason is very tough.

Nevertheless, Thanks for all the memories Jason!
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wow....i just realized. The last strand connecting the Dolphins to Marino left today. No more players on their roster played with him.......kind of makes me sad.
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Me too! :(
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Miami got ****** but not nearly as bad as ATL did for d-hall.
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I don't think anyone was really going to offer them more than a 2nd rounder for a 1 year lease on an aging player. Losing 2 DE's for the season put Washington in the spot where they needed to do it....
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Losing both Zach and Jason in the same offseason is very tough.

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I know he said he was going to retire after next season, but I don't completely believe him. If he stayed on the Fins' I'd believe it but if the Redskins make the playoffs and make progress in the next offseason, I really believe Taylor would stay maybe a year or two longer. Now if the Redskins finish last in the NFC East which is possible seeing as it is a tough division, then I could see him retiring after next season. I do not believe the Fins' got screwed a 2nd and a 6th is a good amount for someone who is 34, they need to rebuild and Taylor was not helping the rebuilding process, this trade benefits both sides. The ATL trade was different, DeAngelo was young and still had a lot of potential so they did get screwed over in that trade.
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The Redskins will make the playoffs this year and with the addition of Zorn Jason Campbell will be able to tap into his potential on a more consistent basis and lead the offense to great things.
That's quite a statement to make, seeing as it's all wishful thinking. What exactly has Jason Campbell shown to make you feel that he's gonna "tap into his potential"?

People were making arguments on how he shouldn't even be playing ahead of Todd freakin' Collins, how in the world is he gonna lead a team, with deficiencies and question marks across the board, to the playoffs? They're arguably the worst team in their division, i feel there's little to no chance they make the playoffs.
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aaaaaa the fiiinsssszzz arent in need of a jason taylor, so taking what they could get is good enough.
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That's quite a statement to make, seeing as it's all wishful thinking. What exactly has Jason Campbell shown to make you feel that he's gonna "tap into his potential"?

People were making arguments on how he shouldn't even be playing ahead of Todd freakin' Collins, how in the world is he gonna lead a team, with deficiencies and question marks across the board, to the playoffs? They're arguably the worst team in their division, i feel there's little to no chance they make the playoffs.
When the Skins played the Packers last year at Lambeau, Campbell played very well, but unfortunately Santana Moss and others forgot to bring their hands otherwise the Packers would have lost. He throws a fairly decent ball and he provides mobility at the position as well. The main key for him will be Clinton Portis; if Portis can stay healthy and produce it'll create alot more one on one matchups on the outside and Campbell can go to work.
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Well we got the 2nd rounder. Next year is going to be awful to watch.
At least you have Parcells though.
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This is a great deal for the Skins no matter what happened to their DE's Taylor is a major upgrade
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Wow that didn't take long I thought some thing might go down with in the next few days but didn't think it would happen that fast.
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When the Skins played the Packers last year at Lambeau, Campbell played very well, but unfortunately Santana Moss and others forgot to bring their hands otherwise the Packers would have lost. He throws a fairly decent ball and he provides mobility at the position as well. The main key for him will be Clinton Portis; if Portis can stay healthy and produce it'll create alot more one on one matchups on the outside and Campbell can go to work.
At the end of the day, he's still a career 77.6 rating guy. He does provide a nicer arm and better mobility over Todd Collins, but his talent has never been what's in question. Who knows where he's at in his noodle, and it's a bit of a reach to just assume he's gonna snap out of his average play, just out of the blue. He has a new coach and new offense to get accustomed to, and from what i know, that only hinders your development, not improve. He has some nice weapons to play with, but he's just not that great a quarterback.

Their defense was ranked 16th against the pass last year, and i don't exactly see that improving, honestly. Their offense doesn't scare me a whole lot.. I don't see why teams can't keep them from scoring more than the 19 they were allowing per game last year.
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