Hall of Fame players - Page 5

XxXdragonXxX · 08-17-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiver

I think that a lot of the offensive lineman in these lists are highly unlikely: Hutchinson, Faneca, Jones.

I know alot of people here think Pace and Ogden are better than Jones, but the guys that vote for the HOF will put him in first ballot without a doubt. The fact that he was a first team AP All-Pro last year even though he didn't have the greatest season last year just goes to show what the media thinks of him. I mean, seriously, before the 06 season The Sporting News had him as the #1 player in the NFL, regardless of position.

Ogden and Jones make it first ballot, Pace will have to wait.

Ravens1991 · 08-18-2008, 11:32 AM

does Matt Stover have a snowball shot in hell? He is 3rd most accurate and 4th all time scorer

NY+Giants=NYG · 08-18-2008, 11:35 AM

So who retired this year now?

Odgen
Strahan
Sapp
McNair

Anyone else I am missing?

Ravens1991 · 08-18-2008, 11:37 AM

I doubt McNair makes it, he has only 2 pro bowls, and no ring. If he got a ring then maybe.

keylime_5 · 08-18-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavenOfProphecy

QB: Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning
RB: Shaun Alexander (maybe), LaDainian Tomlinson
WR: Isaac Bruce, Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens
TE: Tony Gonzalez, Todd Heap (maybe)
OL: Willie Anderson, Alan Faneca, Steve Hutchinson (maybe), Walter Jones, Olin Kreutz, Kevin Mawae, Orlando Pace
K: Adam Vinatieri

DE: Dwight Freeney (maybe), Simeon Rice, Jason Taylor
DT: Casey Hampton (maybe), Pat Williams (maybe)
LB: Derrick Brooks, Keith Bulluck, Ray Lewis, Junior Seau, Zach Thomas, Brian Urlacher
DB: Champ Bailey, Ronde Barber (maybe), Brian Dawkins, Rodney Harrison, Ty Law, John Lynch, Ed Reed, Darren Sharper (maybe)

Just retired: Jonathan Ogden, Warren Sapp, Michael Strahan

Bullock won't make it. Heap won't, Anderson probably won't but he has a chance, we'll see on Vinatieri - kickers hardly ever get considered and I'm thinking he'll get left out. Pace, Mawae, and Kreutz are all borderline. I hope Pace makes it, he was the best college OT there ever was. Hampton and Big Pat probably won't make it either considering the other DTs who will in their time.

Shaun Alexander probably won't make it either. I think Tomlinson and Curtis Martin make it at RB.

Gay Ork Wang · 08-18-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking

So who retired this year now?

Odgen
Strahan
Sapp
McNair

Anyone else I am missing?

Willie Shields?

Geo · 08-18-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravens1991

does Matt Stover have a snowball shot in hell? He is 3rd most accurate and 4th all time scorer

Adam Vinatieri is a lock for the Hall imo, but that's it for kickers.

CC.SD · 08-18-2008, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking

So who retired this year now?

Odgen
Strahan
Sapp
McNair

Anyone else I am missing?

Probably Seau, finally.

illmatic74 · 08-18-2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo

Adam Vinatieri is a lock for the Hall imo, but that's it for kickers.

No kicker should be in the hall.

Gay Ork Wang · 08-18-2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illmatic74

No kicker should be in the hall.

why not......

Dam8610 · 08-18-2008, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravens1991

I doubt McNair makes it, he has only 2 pro bowls, and no ring. If he got a ring then maybe.

This statement shows a huge flaw in the system.

Yung Flippa · 08-18-2008, 01:34 PM

Troy Smith, Plain and Simple. 1st Ballot.

Ravens1991 · 08-18-2008, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610

This statement shows a huge flaw in the system.

what are you talking about?

scottyboy · 08-18-2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravens1991

what are you talking about?

players shouldn't be decided to go in the hall or not based on pro bowls and rings. If so, you'd have Roy Williams(Dal) and like Matt Light in the Hall

Ravens1991 · 08-18-2008, 01:49 PM

I see, but either way I still dont think McNair gets in, it is a part of the system, a players pro bowl births.

yourfavestoner · 08-18-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravens1991

does Matt Stover have a snowball shot in hell? He is 3rd most accurate and 4th all time scorer

Neither Stover nor McNair have a shot in hell of making it. McNair was very good, but definitely not HoF worthy. And Stover was a kicker for gods sakes. Vinitieri's not even gonna make it to the HoF.

Ravens1991 · 08-18-2008, 01:59 PM

YFS, if McNair picked up a ring do you think he would be in?

josh07039 · 08-18-2008, 02:05 PM

I know I'm a bit biased, but I think Curtis Martin has to get in. Not only did he have remarkable longevity which has to be considered a factor in induction, but he was also a great rb almost every year until the end.Not only did he break 1000yds every year, he broke it handily every year except 02. Winning the rushing title at 31 also has to come into play. Being that old and still being capable of doing that is such a huge accomplishment.

Alot of people seem to think of him as an above average rb that just lasted for so long. Firsly, even if that were the case, the career stats that he accumulated should at least have him in consideration. He was a 4.0 yds a carry , over 1000 a year back that could be counted on ever game, every year. He should be a no brainer.

Ravens1991 · 08-18-2008, 02:16 PM

I think he will.

Will Bettis be a HOF?

Geo · 08-18-2008, 03:22 PM

As I mentioned earlier, I would seriously consider Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis not so much. I think Edge is a Hall of Fame back and he'll have the career numbers to make up for not having a ring (which isn't his fault). No to Priest Holmes, I'd sooner put Terrell Davis in.

There might be a limited number of backs who get in, because the voters probably won't put in a half-dozen in a small span of time.

Cribbs>Hester · 08-18-2008, 03:26 PM

Wow. I'm reading this and laughing myself breathless. How long have most of you even been watching football???

If this board was incharge of the HoF it would become The Hall of The Very Good.

Geo · 08-18-2008, 03:28 PM

Warren Moon and Art Monk are in the Hall of Very Good already.

scottyboy · 08-18-2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cribbs>Hester

Wow. I'm reading this and laughing myself breathless. How long have most of you even been watching football???

If this board was incharge of the HoF it would become The Hall of The Very Good.

you think Taylor is better than Strahan and cribbs better than Hester.

nobody gives a **** at what you laugh at

but some of these names are a little ridiculous

yourfavestoner · 08-18-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravens1991

YFS, if McNair picked up a ring do you think he would be in?

The answer would still be no. Steve was a very very good player in his prime. But I'd never go so far as to say that he was one of the best quarterbacks to ever play in the NFL.

I don't know the exact numbers, but the percentage of players that make it into the Hall of Fame from each decade is incredibly small. And once this generation, with its ridiculously stupid amount of padded statistics, starts retiring it's going to be even harder for a lot of guys to make it into the Hall of Fame.

Cribbs>Hester · 08-18-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo

Warren Moon and Art Monk are in the Hall of Very Good already.

Art Monk owned several all time records and the all important ring at the point of his retirement. Half the guys, if not more, listed in this thread aren't even going to be Top 10 in many statistical categories let alone have any rings ala Shaun Alexander, Steve McNair, Will Shields, Pat Williams, Casey Hampton and Simeon Rice...