Clements to Browns? - Page 5

Smooth Criminal · 03-01-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bills_red

He played what 13 games in '07 and like 6 in '06? = 19 games played = more than 1 season of playing time.

I don't think Frye played 13 last year. I know he got hurt and Anderson stepped in and I think he played for 4 or 5 games. I know he played against KC and Pittsburgh but I'd have to check the rest.

But regardless, even in his lets say 19 games, he never looked like a great QB. Losman looked way better last year than Frye ever looked in his career.

03-01-2007, 11:21 PM

Correct me if I am wrong by Willis was only like 10 yards shy of 1,000 yards. That is one first down away, so when you say he did not even have 1,000 season he was barely short of 1,000

icantackleclaret · 03-01-2007, 11:22 PM

Do you suggest going for Quinn?

JoeMontainya · 03-01-2007, 11:22 PM

"Yeah, except our division was the 2nd best in the NFL behind only the AFC West."

how so?

bills_red · 03-01-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by icantackleclaret

Do you suggest going for Quinn?

O-Line or a QB

art vandelay · 03-01-2007, 11:23 PM

Keep in mind, this is the 2nd year of the Levy regime. Last year he did alot of work on the roster, trading/releasing big names like Lawyer Milloy, Sam Adams and Eric Moulds. He obviously still has some issues with players fitting the system and I agree with McGahee and Spikes on the block. If you watch Willis McGahee for 17 games, you get sick of him very quickly. It's just so frustrating to watch a slow RB try to take every carry outside and lose 4 yards.

JoeMontainya · 03-01-2007, 11:23 PM

Before this year, Losman was on the trading block. Then he had an average NFL year for a QB, not great. If Frye has an average year next year, they are no different in there progress.

art vandelay · 03-01-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

"Yeah, except our division was the 2nd best in the NFL behind only the AFC West."

how so?

Based on overall records.

Smooth Criminal · 03-01-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by icantackleclaret

Do you suggest going for Quinn?

I woudln't. I'd give Frye more time.

icantackleclaret · 03-01-2007, 11:24 PM

Dont you think AD would help everything? Take pressure off Frye to have to win games and take pressure off the D by eating the clock. Frye will not be Palmer but he can be Dilfer or better.

bills_red · 03-01-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

Before this year, Losman was on the trading block. Then he had an average NFL year for a QB, not great. If Frye has an average year next year, they are no different in there progress.

Said who??? you?

JoeMontainya · 03-01-2007, 11:26 PM

overall record? Strength of schedule was weak for you guys....

http://www.buffalobills.com/games/schedule2006.jsp

maybe preseason strength of schedule, but not how the season finished.

JoeMontainya · 03-01-2007, 11:27 PM

"Said who??? you?"

says this....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

art vandelay · 03-01-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

Before this year, Losman was on the trading block. Then he had an average NFL year for a QB, not great. If Frye has an average year next year, they are no different in there progress.

Wow, you really don't give up do you.

Levy publicly stated that he had no idea how that Losman story came about. He said that they even liked Losman and hoped he would become the starter. This was after his horrible 2005 season.

AVERAGE YEAR? Yeah...85 QB rating, 63 percent competion percentage, 19 TD's..average numbers.

I'm interested to know what you think of Frye's 10 TD/17 INT ratio and his 72 QB rating. If JP is average, Charlie Frye is utter garbage. Frye has never even had an average year.

You are making a fool out of yourself, BTW.

bills_red · 03-01-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

"Said who??? you?"

says this....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

LEARN HOW TO QUOTE!!!!!!!

I never heard this before, I say BS

art vandelay · 03-01-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

overall record? Strength of schedule was weak for you guys....

http://www.buffalobills.com/games/schedule2006.jsp

maybe preseason strength of schedule, but not how the season finished.

WOW...based on opponent's winning percentage the Bills had the toughest schedule in the NFL. This is a PROVEN FACT. If you don't believe me, go find the NFL.com article. It's out there. The Bills had THE TOUGHEST schedule in the NFL in 2006 and you can quote me on that.

JoeMontainya · 03-01-2007, 11:31 PM

Its not BS, and of course a GM will reverse if he knows the player will be back, exspecially a 1st round QB.

If Mcgahee doesnt get traded, they will say they never really wanted to trade him nayways just so Mcgahee will have a good mood stature.

bills_red · 03-01-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by art vandelay

WOW...based on opponent's winning percentage the Bills had the toughest schedule in the NFL. This is a PROVEN FACT. If you don't believe me, go find the NFL.com article. It's out there. The Bills had THE TOUGHEST schedule in the NFL in 2006 and you can quote me on that.

Scott even had it up on the draft order before but it's gone now.

JoeMontainya · 03-01-2007, 11:32 PM

i want nate Clements, then you guys ruined the threat, take your Losman love fest to your team site.

Im sure other Bills fans are anxious to hear what you think of him.

art vandelay · 03-01-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bills_red

LEARN HOW TO QUOTE!!!!!!!

I never heard this before, I say BS

This came about last year. Levy and Jauron completely dismissed this and said they had no idea how it came about and that Losman, Holcomb and Nall would compete for the starting role. Anyway, that article means absolutely nothing right now.

JP Losman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Derek Anderson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Charlie Frye

bills_red · 03-01-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

Its not BS, and of course a GM will reverse if he knows the player will be back, exspecially a 1st round QB.

If Mcgahee doesnt get traded, they will say they never really wanted to trade him nayways just so Mcgahee will have a good mood stature.

This man is made out of BS, well his is a Browns fan.

JoeMontainya · 03-01-2007, 11:33 PM

"JP Losman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Derek Anderson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Charlie Frye"

do you feel better that your QB who doesnt even rank in the top 15 in NFL QB's is better than a Browns QB?

Shiver · 03-01-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

"JP Losman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Derek Anderson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Charlie Frye"

do you feel better that your QB who doesnt even rank in the top 15 in NFL QB's is better than a Browns QB?

1st - The quote box, learn it, love it.
2nd - Name 15 better Quarterbacks than JP Losman. I want to see that list.

art vandelay · 03-01-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

i want nate Clements, then you guys ruined the threat, take your Losman love fest to your team site.

Im sure other Bills fans are anxious to hear what you think of him.

Haha, you brought it up, bud. Good to see that you have admitted defeat. You made some horrible claims and you had no facts to back them up. It's clear that you know nothing about the Bills and the fact that you think the Browns are better off than the Bills makes you deranged.

bills_red · 03-01-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMontainya

"JP Losman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Derek Anderson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Charlie Frye"

do you feel better that your QB who doesnt even rank in the top 15 in NFL QB's is better than a Browns QB?

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2006/regular

NFL Passer Rating
Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating
1 Peyton Manning IND 4397 557 362 31 9 68 101.0
2 Damon Huard KC 1878 244 148 11 1 78 98.0
3 Drew Brees NO 4418 554 356 26 11 86 96.2
4 Donovan McNabb PHI 2647 316 180 18 6 87 95.5
5 Tony Romo DAL 2903 337 220 19 13 56 95.1
6 Carson Palmer CIN 4035 520 324 28 13 74 93.9
7 Marc Bulger STL 4301 588 370 24 8 67 92.9
8 Philip Rivers SD 3388 460 284 22 9 57 92.0
9 Tom Brady NE 3529 516 319 24 12 62 87.9
10 Mark Brunell WAS 1789 260 162 8 4 74 86.5
11 J.P. Losman BUF 3051 429 268 19 14 83 84.9