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Old 09-08-2008, 10:26 PM    (permalink
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Ray Rice was good, he rules. pwnd some Cincy bitches. sent their asses to jail.

Phillips looked good when he came in on nickel situations. Couple nice tackles, not much time though. Too little to really judge him


Phillips made at least 2 excellent tackles that stopped 1st downs. a lot better tackler than i had heard
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How about that Royal kid?

Making them look foolish tonight. We'll see if he can sustain this.
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Royal has looked very good so far.
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How about that Royal kid?

Making them look foolish tonight. We'll see if he can sustain this.
I do not see why not. Raiders have had one of the top pass defenses in the league for the past couple of years.

Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson both seem like the real deal. Weird how they dropped (or at least, DeSean) past the first round.
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I do not see why not. Raiders have had one of the top pass defenses in the league for the past couple of years.

Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson both seem like the real deal. Weird how they dropped (or at least, DeSean) past the first round.
a great secondary + no pass rush = below average secondary

that's elementary **** man
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Im suprised they did not give McFadden more touches. Nothing wrong with pounding it with Fargas but just suprising. Jamarcus needs some help in the passing game that is sure
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a great secondary + no pass rush = below average secondary

that's elementary **** man
Its a fair point, but it still takes a good receiver to get away from probowl level players as a rookie.

Its easy to detract from a performance by looking at their opponent but if you dominate what more do you want?
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Its a fair point, but it still takes a good receiver to get away from probowl level players as a rookie.

Its easy to detract from a performance by looking at their opponent but if you dominate what more do you want?
just shut the **** up you contrarian ass.

all you do is disagree with people and apparently for no reason.
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just shut the **** up you contrarian ass.

all you do is disagree with people and apparently for no reason.


I'm not one to rag on someone for thinking a rookie dominating a former pro bowler isn't at all commendable.
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It's a decent point though; the game's designed to let receivers roam free, with no pass rush any secondary would get turned inside out. It's just impossible to cover a guy with any sort of speed for 10+ seconds. I'm sure Royal will be a great receiver, but you can't knock the Oakland secondary too badly.

It does suck to be D-Hall tonight though.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:06 AM    (permalink
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After rewatching the Carolina/San Diego game, Jeff Otah is an absolute manbeast. Everything he was promised to be as a run blocker but much more than expected in the passing game. Not saying he's all the way there yet, but it's night and day from Jordan Gross and his backpedaling

BTW, anyone remember the talk of Forte moving to FB early in the draft process last year? I'm still trying to figure out where the hell that came from and why anyone thought it'd be necessary
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I do not see why not. Raiders have had one of the top pass defenses in the league for the past couple of years.

Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson both seem like the real deal. Weird how they dropped (or at least, DeSean) past the first round.
When the draft came around I knew that I wanted a small, fast receiver. I was a HUGE DeSean Jackson homer and I was also a small fan of Royal.

Then the Buccaneers drafted Dexter Jackson. Now admittedly he hasn't played on offense yet, but with DeSean and Eddie doing so well, I feel slightly concerned that the Buccaneers didn't grab one of the guys I wanted.
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When the draft came around I knew that I wanted a small, fast receiver. I was a HUGE DeSean Jackson homer and I was also a small fan of Royal.

Then the Buccaneers drafted Dexter Jackson. Now admittedly he hasn't played on offense yet, but with DeSean and Eddie doing so well, I feel slightly concerned that the Buccaneers didn't grab one of the guys I wanted.
You know better.

No matter what the talent, they will fall to Chuck's ineptitude.
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No matter what the talent, they will fall to Chuck's ineptitude.
Or maybe even worse, DeSean or Eddie would have come in, posted a 10+ TD and 1500 yard season, then fallen into mediocrity like some other guy the Bucs drafted a few years back.
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Or maybe even worse, DeSean or Eddie would have come in, posted a 10+ TD and 1500 yard season, then fallen into mediocrity like some other guy the Bucs drafted a few years back.
But he "DAZZLES" the league with his genius. It must be the players!
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I love the way my NO boys played, both ellis and porter were awesome. However the best must have been in no particular order.
Chris Johnson
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Eddie Royal
Matt Forte

A couple of other defensive players looked good as well however to early to be awesome on that side of the ball perhaps
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When the draft came around I knew that I wanted a small, fast receiver. I was a HUGE DeSean Jackson homer and I was also a small fan of Royal.

Then the Buccaneers drafted Dexter Jackson. Now admittedly he hasn't played on offense yet, but with DeSean and Eddie doing so well, I feel slightly concerned that the Buccaneers didn't grab one of the guys I wanted.
I was a huge fan of DeSean Jackson as well. I thought he had the capabilities of Steve Smith. Though my opinion of him slightly decreased as the draft grew closer, I still thought he could make a good impact on some team. I didn't think he was this good in the passing game.
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Did anyone else notice how great Ryan Clady looked last night? He looked better than Joe Thomas did in his first game last year
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Joe Thomas had to face the Steelers.

He faced the Raiders.
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I'm very excited to see what dexter jackson can do for our team. I know he was slipping about a bit on the Saints' turf, but apart from that how did he look? After seeing how well Royal and the other Jackson did, I just need somebody to tell me it's all going to be ok...
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Dexter Jackson wasn't slipping, he was falling. Like scared falling. You could tell on his first 4 returns that he wasn't slipping on accident. He actually grew a pair later in the 2nd half but in the first half he was completely falling down.
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In addition to the aforementioned DeSean Jackson awesomeness, he also absolutely roasted Fakhir Brown and would have had a TD but Brown hauled him down, and somehow, some way, there was no flag thrown despite it being one of the most obvious PI calls ever. It may have something to do with the game being a blowout, but still. Jackson's first grab was absolutely silly.
Looking at that play, I still don't know how Tye Hill didn't at least touch that ball, his coverage was great
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