Titans 2009 Draft/Offseason Thread - Page 2

TitanHope · 11-24-2008, 05:37 AM

I've put together my positional Big Board for the first 2 RD's!

Wide Receiver
1st RD Tier
Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland
Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Kenny Britt, Rutgers

2nd RD Tier
Derrick Williams, Penn State
Brandon Tate, North Carolina

Tight End
1st RD Tier
Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma

2nd RD Tier
Cornelius Ingram, Florida
Chase Coffman, Missouri
Travis Beckum, Wisconsin

Guard
1st RD Tier
Duke Robinson, Oklahoma

Defensive End
1st RD Tier
Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
Greg Hardy, Ole Miss
George Selvie, South Florida

2nd RD Tier
Tyson Jackson, LSU
Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin
Cody Brown, UConn

Defensive Tackle
1st RD Tier
Peria Jerry, Ole Miss

2nd RD Tier
Evander Hood, Missouri
Terrance Taylor, Michigan
Fili Moala, USC

Middle Linebacker
1st RD Tier
Brandon Spikes, Florida
James Laurinitis, Ohio State

2nd RD Tier
Darry Beckwith, LSU
Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia
Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh

Corner
1st RD Tier
D.J. Moore

That's it for now. Every position listed are what I believe are needs, and aren't listed in any particular order. Players listed are the ones that I've seen available (or at least in the near vacinity) at our picks on mocks in the Mock Draft forum, and they're ranked by tiers in order of my current preferrance. I'll probably delve deeper into CB as I learn more about the other CB's.

Thoughts?

smittyjs · 11-24-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TitanHope

I've put together my positional Big Board for the first 2 RD's!

Wide Receiver
1st RD Tier
Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland
Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Kenny Britt, Rutgers

2nd RD Tier
Derrick Williams, Penn State
Brandon Tate, North Carolina

Tight End
1st RD Tier
Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma

2nd RD Tier
Cornelius Ingram, Florida
Chase Coffman, Missouri
Travis Beckum, Wisconsin

Guard
1st RD Tier
Duke Robinson, Oklahoma

Defensive End
1st RD Tier
Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
Greg Hardy, Ole Miss
George Selvie, South Florida

2nd RD Tier
Tyson Jackson, LSU
Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin
Cody Brown, UConn

Defensive Tackle
1st RD Tier
Peria Jerry, Ole Miss

2nd RD Tier
Evander Hood, Missouri
Terrance Taylor, Michigan
Fili Moala, USC

Middle Linebacker
1st RD Tier
Brandon Spikes, Florida
James Laurinitis, Ohio State

2nd RD Tier
Darry Beckwith, LSU
Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia
Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh

Corner
1st RD Tier
D.J. Moore

That's it for now. Every position listed are what I believe are needs, and aren't listed in any particular order. Players listed are the ones that I've seen available (or at least in the near vacinity) at our picks on mocks in the Mock Draft forum, and they're ranked by tiers in order of my current preferrance. I'll probably delve deeper into CB as I learn more about the other CB's.

Thoughts?

I like it :), I'm not that big on taking a LB early, and DT, as everyone already said is really only a big need if fat albert goes.
So i like the draft to look like this...
1st round: DJ moore
2nd Round: Tyson Jackson

Or
1st Round:Jemery Maclin
2nd Round: Tyson jackson

CashmoneyDrew · 11-24-2008, 11:51 AM

Everyone already knows how badly I want DJ Moore, but unfortunately I see him being taken around 18-22 which will be out of our reach unless we trade up.

TitanHope · 11-24-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by smittyjs

I like it , I'm not that big on taking a LB early, and DT, as everyone already said is really only a big need if fat albert goes.

I'd almost rank MIKE as our #1 need on the defensive side of the ball, and that was made evident against the Jets. Tulloch has all the tools, but gets out of position too easily (a big reason why Leon Washington had that one huge run). Fowler has the instincts and knowledge, but isn't a playmaker.

I know I wanted Tulloch out there over Fowler, but at least Fowler was consistent. Our run defense is very streaky with Tulloch trying to shed blocks. If Schwartz leaves for a HC gig, then perhaps his successor will value the MLB position.

aNYtitan · 12-02-2008, 10:43 PM

What would it take to try and even get into a position to draft Crabtree? Would a "Ricky Williams draft day trade" be needed? I'm just wondering whether that injury affects him at all and he drops. He has to be the number one player on the draft board even though we have no shot of getting him in the position we are at now.

Also, MIKE is a high need since Tulloch would be a spot starter on other teams. Unfortunately, the Cover 2 def we run puts little stock in having a good MLB. I think and have been hoping that we do improve the position

CashmoneyDrew · 12-03-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aNYtitan

What would it take to try and even get into a position to draft Crabtree? Would a "Ricky Williams draft day trade" be needed? I'm just wondering whether that injury affects him at all and he drops. He has to be the number one player on the draft board even though we have no shot of getting him in the position we are at now.

Also, MIKE is a high need since Tulloch would be a spot starter on other teams. Unfortunately, the Cover 2 def we run puts little stock in having a good MLB. I think and have been hoping that we do improve the position

D.J. Moore or bust son!

TitanHope · 12-03-2008, 09:08 PM

Dunno if MR will trade up. He values picks, and it'd be out of the FO's nature to do so.

Like usual, he'll probably just wait to see who falls, and draft a stud like he did with Griffin and CJ.

CashmoneyDrew · 12-03-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanHope

Dunno if MR will trade up. He values picks, and it'd be out of the FO's nature to do so.

Like usual, he'll probably just wait to see who falls, and draft a stud like he did with Griffin and CJ.

Or Chris Henry, Paul Williams, or William Hayes!

jk (hopefully)

TitanHope · 12-07-2008, 01:09 AM

Hey, at least the 1st RD picks worked out! :D

Michael Griffin and Jacob Ford seem to be the only bright spots from last year's class, but this year's looks great. Chris Johnson, Jason Jones, William Hayes, and Lavelle Hawkins have played very well for rookies. Craig Stevens and Stanford Keglar have done well on special teams too. Lots of promise from this class, and if the '09 Draft goes just as well, then we should be a winning team for a long time to come!

vidae · 12-15-2008, 12:05 PM

.. I'm not exactly sure who to give you guys. My first thought was Alex Mack who can play anywhere on the line and eventually be a replacement for Kevin Mawae, but now I'm rethinking that decision. Is WR your biggest need? Any help would be appreciated. Oh, I have you picking 32nd also, if that helps anything.

CashmoneyDrew · 12-15-2008, 12:54 PM

We have no need for Alex Mack because we already have a replacement for Mawae when he retires in Leroy Harris. Our needs are as follows: CB, WR, KR, MLB.

vidae · 12-15-2008, 01:24 PM

Thanks for the help. :)

stephenson86 · 12-15-2008, 04:19 PM

WR/KR especially

MicktheGreat · 12-15-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanHope

Hey, at least the 1st RD picks worked out! :D

Michael Griffin and Jacob Ford seem to be the only bright spots from last year's class, but this year's looks great. Chris Johnson, Jason Jones, William Hayes, and Lavelle Hawkins have played very well for rookies. Craig Stevens and Stanford Keglar have done well on special teams too. Lots of promise from this class, and if the '09 Draft goes just as well, then we should be a winning team for a long time to come!

Griffin definitely looks like a great player. Ford looks OK to me but I'm reserving my optimism at this point until he proves that he can do more than rush the passer (because we really need a DE who can play the run opposite KVB).

Chris Johnson's definitely a stud. I was skeptical at first but I've been converted. Though I don't think he'll ever be a "full-time" RB, I think he can be a perennial 1200-1500 yard rusher in this league. Jason Jones has been inconsistent; but I think alot of that has to do with the coaching staff forcing him to play at DT (something that I still don't understand). I'd much rather see him play at DE, where he could help us against the run on early downs. Hawkins has looked good in limited time but, again, he hasn't played enough to form a real opinion (btw...why hasn't he played more? because McCareins is so "good"? ugh...). I haven't seen anything from Hayes that has impressed me thus far. He still seems like a major reach -- an DE/LB tweener who doesn't seem to fit our defensive scheme, from what I can tell...

Given his draft position, I think Keglar has proven his worth on special teams -- but I'd like to see him get some more playing time at LB in these last couple of games. I still can't justify the Stevens pick. No way should we draft someone in the 3rd freakin' round who basically only plays on special teams coverage. I'll view Stevens as a good pick when he actually becomes involved with the offense.

aNYtitan · 12-15-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stephenson86

WR/KR especially

I dunno about KR, Chris Carr has done a pretty good job so far

CashmoneyDrew · 12-16-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aNYtitan

I dunno about KR, Chris Carr has done a pretty good job so far

Chris Carr is solid, especially on kick returns. However, I just don't feel like he can take it all the way. I'm hoping to God that Brandon James comes out early and we try to nab him around the third round.

CashmoneyDrew · 12-16-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MicktheGreat

I still can't justify the Stevens pick. No way should we draft someone in the 3rd freakin' round who basically only plays on special teams coverage. I'll view Stevens as a good pick when he actually becomes involved with the offense.

He's a blocker that is going to really have to work hard on his catching to see more playing time. The only TE we've had on the team this year really pulling their weight is Bo Scaife, and I think he's better suited for a #2 role. Alge Crumpler looks pretty close to being done IMO.

TitansFTW · 01-06-2009, 06:04 AM

I think we should look for another CB, ILB, or DT in the 1st round. Im not big at drafting a WR in the 1st. And if we pick at 32, I'd like one of these guys for the pick at the postions I listed.

CB- D.J. Moore
ILB- Brandon Spikes
DT- Terrence Cody

I like these guys at the draft position we are in. And it may be possible to address the WR position in FA. Like maybe a certain Cincy Bengals =)

MicktheGreat · 01-06-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TitansFTW

I think we should look for another CB, ILB, or DT in the 1st round. Im not big at drafting a WR in the 1st. And if we pick at 32, I'd like one of these guys for the pick at the postions I listed.

CB- D.J. Moore
ILB- Brandon Spikes
DT- Terrence Cody

I like these guys at the draft position we are in. And it may be possible to address the WR position in FA. Like maybe a certain Cincy Bengals =)

I agree that the 1st Round will likely address CB or DT (depending on what happens to Haynesworth).

BUT...I don't think D.J. Moore will last to #32 in the 1st round, given his ability to play at a high-level on defense and on special teams. And, even though I like Terrance Cody, I don't think he fits our defensive scheme at all. We tend to like DTs who can get after the QB. Cody doesn't really offer that at all -- he's pretty much only a run-stuffing DT (so I think it's unlikely we draft him).

CashmoneyDrew · 01-06-2009, 11:46 AM

If for some reason we lose out on Haynesworth, the DT's with 1st round grades that can get after the QB are Gerald McCoy, Peria Jerry, and B.J. Raji.

Out of that group I like Raji the most, but we'd probably have to trade up to get him. Welcome to the boards Titansftw.

TitanHope · 01-10-2009, 07:41 PM

Jermaine Gresham, D.J. Moore, Jeremy Maclin, or Percy Harvin sure would have been great today.

stephenson86 · 01-10-2009, 08:13 PM

Tennessee Titans Season Review 2009

The Good:- Chris Johnson – It showed in the playoff game against Baltimore why he got an MVP vote.

The Bad:- LenDale White – He showed in the playoff game against Baltimore why he is a good for nothing. If that was a bucket of fried chicken he doesn’t fumble.

Team Review:-
QB- This season the Titans were destined to go far when Vince Young went down and what eventually became out for the season. Allowing Kerry Collins to come in and do what Young couldn't, manage a game. Since being placed at the helm Kerry Collins as successfully managed the Titans offense allowing us to be effective and efficient in every area of play. Obviously we all know he is not a game changing quarterback and will never be but he has done for the Titans exactly what we needed, offer enough of a threat in the pass game to open up the run, something Young never did.

RB- Chris Johnson came in with a lot of question marks surrounding whether he was going to flop or not. Well suffice to say he didn’t flop and has been the spark in the Tennessee offense that we have lacked for as long as I can remember. He offers us a lot of versatility in both the run and the pass also to top it off he can block. Personally I think he could be used even more effectively in the offense but we always have next season. LenDale well is LenDale he gets hit and falls forward, he is easily replaceable.

FB- Ahmard Hall, he is a much unsung hero amongst the league but we Titans fans know the key role he plays in our rushing success, a real cannon ball blocker, he paves the way for Johnson and for White except White never hits the hole in time. He has great hands and is effective with the ball in his hands, very underrated and I hope one day he gets pro bowl consideration.

WR- Pretty much all I can say is we still do not have a go to guy and there are far to many drops across the board, there was nobody who stood out as special again for us.

TE- Bo Scaife did very well for us nothing spectacular but he did what hes done since he got here and that’s catch balls and keep the chains moving, will never be a top tier tight end but he does what we need him to do. Alge Crumpler didn’t really do anything at all but he did help with blocking in the run game, disappointing season from what we thought would be a great weapon.

LT- Michael Roos is elite, and he does not get all the credit that he deserves, since coming into the league he has arguably been a top 5 tackle, so consistent and vital to our offensive success.

LG- Fought with Leroy Harris for the starting LG job, he has had starting experience at LG over his time at Tennessee but always as a backup, has come in and has been better than expected.

C- Kevin Mawae since coming in has been a fantastic leader and the exact kind of leader we need on offense, he is going to the pro bowl this year and it is well deserved, one if not the best centre of the last decade or so and he is vital to our offensive lines success.

RG- Brought in to replace Benji Olsen and he has been as good if not better than he was when he was with the Colts. He offers very good protection against the interior rush and helps keep a strong pocket.

RT- David Stewart is probably the only guy on our line who is better at run blocking than pass blocking but he is not slouch when it comes to pass protection, he is the most violent guy on our OL and he does not let up easily.

DE- We only have one true starter on the DL in KVB who as everyone knows it a top tier DE with a nonstop motor and intense play style. Opposite we have 3 guys who we use, Jevon Kearse, Jacob Ford and William Hayes. In the end it’s likely that Hayes and Ford will become an effective rotation with Ford coming in on passing downs. Kearse has been solid this year but we could do with more of a threat coming off the opposite edge to KVB.

DT- We all know about Albert Haynesworth so we don’t need to hear anything about him, as long as he is resigned I am happy. Tony Brown the UT opposite AH is very effective in both the run or the pass he’s not and will never be a house hold name but he is key to our interior success and pressure on the DL because if AH and KVB are getting worried about he is going to go after the QB like a rabid dog. Jason Jones a much unsung rookie from this year’s draft proved how well he can shoulder duty when either Brown or Haynesworth goes down with a 3.5 sack performance against Pittsburgh.

MLB- We are very standard at MLB with us chopping and changing between them since Randall Godfrey left us a long time ago, with the likes of Ryan Fowler, Peter Sirmon and now Stephen Tulloch, who has chopped and changed as starter with Fowler. Tulloch is stout and rather like London Fletcher in Physique but does not have the same nose for the ball and is just for me a glorified Special Teamer.

OLB- Keith Bulluck is still a top tier OLB but he isn’t as good as he was a couple of years ago but still there are few I would take over him because his leadership is what keeps the defense ticking. David Thornton is a middle of the pack LB, better in run support than he is in pass coverage, i would sweat watching him cover a top tier TE. Could do with getting some depth behind them.

CB- Cortland Finnegen is elite in my eyes however everything behind him is average, Nick Harper is old and slowing down and he can’t match up against the top flight receivers any more so he can get picked on, we could do with getting a top flight CB in the first round of the draft or go after Nnamdi in FA.

SS- Chris Hope was hugely underrated at Pittsburgh but he was what made Troy Polamalu as effective as he was because he could cover deep while Polamalu roamed around. Now he offers great help in run support and pass coverage and is easily one of the top safeties in the game and has greatly helped Michael Griffin.

FS- Griffin stupidly was tried at CB when he first arrived in the league but now is at his true position and has racked up 11 interceptions in 26 career starts and had a huge game changing pick 6 in the Pittsburgh game to clinch us home field advantage, he is on his way to becoming a top 5 safety in the NFL.

K- Bironas has been solid as always he is definitely a top 5 kicker in the NFL.

P- Hentrich business as usual.

KR/PR- Chris Carr has been good but our special teams is never a threat to go to the house, would love to see us get a very good returner.

Players in contract year (only ones I can find):-
Kerry Collins: UFA – We have to keep him.
Brandon Jones: UFA – He is expendable.
Roydell Williams: UFA – Who???
Bo Scaife: UFA – He needs to stay he is a very good #2 TE.
Albert Haynesworth: UFA – If we do not sign him I support the team who does.

Players we should cut or not re sign:-
Roydell Williams
LenDale White
Alge Crumpler
Justin McCareins
Chris Henry
Chris Davis

There are more likely to get cut like poor depth players.

Players we should go after:-
TJ Whosyamamma?
Nnamdi Assawhat?
Derrick Ward
Jonathan Vilma

Players we should chase in the draft:-
Josh Freeman (round 2 or 3)
Brandon Pettigrew/Jermaine Gresham (round 1 if he falls and we pick up a receiver)
Percy Harvin (Deff round 1 is WR is a need still, he is a playmaker)

TitanHope · 01-11-2009, 06:57 PM

I changed the title to include "Offseason." Hope ya don't mind VDM.

Looking toward the draft, I think our motto is similar to last year. Where as last year we needed TD's, this year we need plays. I'm think TE, WR, then CB after looking at our FA's. Scaife is a FA, and Crumpler is a FA in '10. Brandon Pettigrew is perfect for us - even more than Gresham. Pettigrew can block and catch - think a young Daniel Graham. A 6'6 target who's there on the goal line and when we're starting the drive on the 20-yd line. He'd have the be a 1st RD pick though. Aside from him, I like Chase Coffman, Shawn Nelson, Jared Cook, and the Rice TE. At WR, I really like Harvin now. After seeing our offense revert to it's stale form of last season, we need speed out there besides CJ. At worst, Harvin is a rich man's Wes Welker. Having both will allow either CJ or Harvin to handle KR's. At CB, you all know I love D.J. Moore, and think he can make plays on DEF as well as at PR.

Looking toward FA, here are our FA's this offseason and next offseason:

2009:
QB Kerry Collins
QB Chris Simms
TE Bo Scaife
WR Brandon Jones
WR Justin McCareins
P Craig Hentrich
OT Mike Otto
DL Albert Haynesworth
LB Colin Allred
LB Jorge Cordova
CB Eric King
S Vincent Fuller

2010:
RB LenDale White
TE Alge Crumpler
C/G Eugene Amano
C Kevin Mawae
DL Tony Brown
DL Kyle Vanden Bosch
LB/LS Ken Amato
LB Keith Bulluck
LB Stephen Tulloch
CB Nick Harper

I believe these are correct. Players in italics are the ones I think we need to retain. It really all depends on how things go in the upcoming weeks.

List of '09 and future FA's.

CashmoneyDrew · 01-11-2009, 07:02 PM

To be honest I think we need to keep Scaife and pair him with a bigger guy like Coffman, Pettigrew or Gresham. My only worry about Pettigrew is off-the -field concerns and for Coffman it's blocking. That's why I want Gresham the most out of the three.

I don't mind the thread title change at all btw!

TitanHope · 01-11-2009, 07:29 PM

Scaife is a great #2, and I want to keep him, but he seems like the odd man out after looking at the roster. Crumpler still has a year left on his contract, and Craig Stevens was just drafted. I'd prefer to let Crumpler walk and re-sign Scaife, but I dunno if they cut Alge.

With a blocking TE like Craig Stevens, we can afford to bring in a guy who may not excel at blocking. So Gresham in the 1st or Coffman in the 2nd would be awesome with me.

Whatever happens, something needs to change. Tired of feeling like we're stuck with three #2 TE's, y'know what I'm sayin?