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It may have something to do with the fact that he had the most APY last year and was near the top the year before???
Who gives a crap? That doesn't make you a Top 3 back in the league.

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Who gives a crap? That doesn't make you a Top 3 back in the league.

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What exactly makes someone a top 3 back then
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Who gives a crap? That doesn't make you a Top 3 back in the league.

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Um, then what does? Let me guess...not even starting and riding your teammates' coattails to a Pro Bowl?

Quite possibly one of the top 10 dumbest comments I've read on this site.
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Um, then what does? Let me guess...not even starting and riding your teammates' coattails to a Pro Bowl?

Quite possibly one of the top 10 dumbest comments I've read on this site.
He's nothing but a glorified kick returner in a gimmicky offense.
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Who would you put ahead of Westbrook? LT, AD, um, yeah....
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He's nothing but a glorified kick returner in a gimmicky offense.
You must be ******* kidding me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtfuypdCKk

Do tell how the offense is gimmicky.
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He's nothing but a glorified kick returner in a gimmicky offense.
So you're saying Devin Hester could lead the league in all-purpose yards at RB for the eagles? Ok.....
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So you're saying Devin Hester could lead the league in all-purpose yards at RB for the eagles? Ok.....
D-Unit's Cowboys homerism has reached an all-time high. Given time, it could reach his lovefest for Colt Brennan.
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Who would you put ahead of Westbrook? LT, AD, um, yeah....
How about Frank Gore, Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, Joseph Addai, Steven Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, Ronnie Brown, Marion Barber ... um, yeah.
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How about Frank Gore, Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, Joseph Addai, Steven Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, Ronnie Brown, Marion Barber ... um, yeah.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Tha t is indeed classic.
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You must be ******* kidding me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtfuypdCKk

Do tell how the offense is gimmicky.
What did did to that San Francisco 49er was insanely awesome from a spectators viewpoint. For the 49er not so much.
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How about Frank Gore, Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, Joseph Addai, Steven Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, Ronnie Brown, Marion Barber ... um, yeah.
I'd put Portis, Turner, and Jackson on Westbrook's level.
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D-Unit's Cowboys homerism has reached an all-time high. Given time, it could reach his lovefest for Colt Brennan.
This coming from the biggest Philly homer on the site. That's funny.

The fact that I think Westbrook has been overrated has nothing to do with me being a Cowboys fan and for you to use that as an excuse is about as weak an argument as one could make up.
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I'd put Portis, Turner, and Jackson on Westbrook's level.
Turner hasn't proven anything over the course of a full season. And Westbrook is certainly the most versatile.

Marion Barber has been starting for, what, five games? D might be the biggest homer on the board.
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Turner hasn't proven anything over the course of a full season. And Westbrook is certainly the most versatile.

Marion Barber has been starting for, what, five games? D might be the biggest homer on the board.
Turner is still the man. Biggest out of the bunch, faster than all but Portis.

I think Westbrook, along with Portis, should be considered the top 2 after Tomlinson and Peterson.
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Turner hasn't proven anything over the course of a full season. And Westbrook is certainly the most versatile.

Marion Barber has been starting for, what, five games? D might be the biggest homer on the board.
What does games started have to do with the fact on who's a better NFL RB?

Westbrook is a system RB. Period. You can't play him in any NFL offense and expect him to give the same results.
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This coming from the biggest Philly homer on the site. That's funny.

The fact that I think Westbrook has been overrated has nothing to do with me being a Cowboys fan and for you to use that as an excuse is about as weak an argument as one could make up.
It has EVERYTHING to do with your homerism. The only back that has arguably been better than Westbrook since Westbrook became a starter is Tomlinson.

Westbrook
518 carries
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4.92 ypc
14 TD
19 20+ yard runs
167 receptions
1470 receiving yards
8.80 ypc
9 TD
16 20+ yard receptions.

Find me someone not named Tomlinson that has been better since the time Westbrook became a starter.
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Some of those guys I can see getting an argument from a pure runner standpoint but as an all around player (run, receive, block) Westbrook is top 3. When he's healthy it's not really close.
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It has EVERYTHING to do with your homerism. The only back that has arguably been better than Westbrook since Westbrook became a starter is Tomlinson.

Westbrook: 518 carries, 2550 rushing yards, 4.92 ypc, 14 TD, 19 20+ yard runs, 167 receptions, 1470 receiving yards, 8.80 ypc, 9 TD, 16 20+ yard receptions.

Find me someone not named Tomlinson that has been better since the time Westbrook became a starter.
Westbrook's stats have everything to do with the system he plays in.
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Some of those guys I can see getting an argument from a pure runner standpoint but as an all around player (run, receive, block) Westbrook is top 3. When he's healthy it's not really close.
Unfortunately, the reality is that health does account for the greatness of a RB. Bo Jackson and Christian Okoye could've been some of the greatest ever, if not for that fact.
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Westbrook's stats have everything to do with the system he plays in.
You don't really know that, take him out of Philly and he might not put up the same receiving stats but if he was in a system that ran the ball more than 35% of the time he might have way better rushing stats.
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Westbrook's stats have everything to do with the system he plays in.
What is so great about this system?

Since 2004...

With Westbrook: 36-23, 23.6 ppg, 108.4 rush yards per game, 15 100 yard games (all Westbrook)
Without Westbrook: 3-7, 16.7 ppg, 104.6 rush yards per game, 2 100 yard games

Yes, the system clearly runs at 100% efficiency without Westbrook. 100% efficiency meaning a touchdown less per game.
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Right now, if I'm building a team regardless of what system I'm running these are the RBs I'm drafting in order:

1. LT
2. AP
3. Westbrook
4. Portis
5. Steven Jackson
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Right now, if I'm building a team regardless of what system I'm running these are the RBs I'm drafting in order:

1. LT
2. AP
3. Westbrook
4. Portis
5. Steven Jackson
...and you'd have to alter your offense to fit Westbrook. Otherwise, he's less effective.
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