Week 5 Sunday in review - Page 2

diabsoule · 10-06-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMcgee

Don't blame Losman. He was far from spectacular, but this one is on the defense, and the o-line stopped doing him favors in the second half.

I was about to post asking how Losman did.

Geo · 10-06-2008, 03:27 PM

Same old with that loser. Unless you want a QB who is only competent throwing a few deep balls or tucking the ball.

illmatic74 · 10-06-2008, 03:28 PM

I didn't see the game so it is much easier to blame Losman

Geo · 10-06-2008, 03:30 PM

I wouldn't say he was the main culprit for the Bills' loss though. Arizona had a great start and the Bills' defense couldn't stop them once they got hot.

awfullyquiet · 10-06-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by illmatic74

Not let him carry the ball 415 times thats absurd. That breaks the curse of 370 by 45 carries

And the fault of Larry Johnson this year is... The same as Jamaal Charles...
Curse or no curse. Who cares. larry Johnson moved the ball.

SuperMcGee · 10-06-2008, 03:31 PM

Do so if you want. He wasn't great, but we still lose that game with Trent at QB.

giantsfan · 10-06-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by illmatic74

You have to admit he was pretty bad in the regular season. He turned the ball over 27 times.

See he had all of those turnovers but he still showed in the regular season that he could drive that offense when we needed it and most were the result of Killdrive's desire to be a vertical passing team when we were at our best going more horizontal in the passing game. He forced things because that's what his coaches want to be able to do, but it just wasn't our best chance at success and the INTs are the result of this failed attempt to be vertical, which is why it's so disheartening to see Killdrive going back to it after finally changing up his game plan for last year playoffs.

illmatic74 · 10-06-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awfullyquiet

And the fault of Larry Johnson this year is... The same as Jamaal Charles...
Curse or no curse. Who cares. larry Johnson moved the ball.

He might have been looking at a hall of fame career but now he is shot because of the ridiculous amount of carries. Broncos game flash in pan.

bigbluedefense · 10-06-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 21ST

Being sorry and just havin a bunch of really good people around you so all you have to do is throw the ball up?

aww, well aren't you a cute one?

redskin fans get so adorable when they start winning.

Geo · 10-06-2008, 03:45 PM

Redskins have the most underrated defense in the league. They are doing a great job against the pass, and are playing the run better than in previous years.

And without that overrated twerp Gregg Williams, look at that.

bigbluedefense · 10-06-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo

Redskins have the most underrated defense in the league.

And without that overrated twerp Gregg Williams, look at that.

i must admit, i am very very impressed with their coverage schemes.

Their defense is built upon their safeties. Laron Landry is already the best safety in football, and Horton is not too shabby himself. Everything they do on defense in terms of coverage and coverage disguises starts with their safeties and their ridiculous range.

bigbluedefense · 10-06-2008, 03:51 PM

As far as being underrated, i don't think thats the case. they were the #8 ranked defense in the league last year I believe? i know they were top 10, i remember that much.

The reason why their run defense is so much better is because again, their safeties.

Horton is a great run stuffing safety, and Landry's range is so ridiculous they can cheat up on stuff the run more while Laron blankets the entire field. Even sometimes Landry moves up to the line and they play a 9 man box. Landry's range is so ridiculous, he can play at the LOS, and race downfield at the snap and cover the deep middle in Cover 1/3 still. His range is that ridiculous.

And Horton has incredible range too. The range of those 2 safeties allows them to sell certain coverages and immediately race into their true positions and really give the offense a look that was very different from their presnap formation. Their ability to disguise coverages with their safeties is what makes that defense so good. And its all about their safeties.

Props to their DC for using his safety talent to the best of his ability. But that defense is what it is because of the incredible range of its safety duo.

Not to mention a duo of underrated DTs, an underrated DE in Carter, and a very underrated LB core.

SeanTaylorRIP · 10-06-2008, 04:02 PM

You also have to consider who the Redskins have played. In their 5 games they have faced the Giants the #1 rated offense in the NFL, the Saints the 3rd rated Offense in the NFL, the Cardinals the 5th rated offense in the NFL, the Cowboys the 4th rated offense in the NFL, and the Eagles the 9th rated offense in the NFL. That's 5 top 9 offenses in the NFL and 4 top 5 offenses and they are still impressive. Can't wait for our next 3 game stretch when we face the Rams, the Lions, and the Browns.

CashmoneyDrew · 10-06-2008, 04:11 PM

I'm gonna have to disagree with the whole "The Titans won no matter how hard Kerry Collins tried to lose" thing. He was without his best WR, and had about zero support from the run game. He didn't take any sacks and led the game winning drive at the end. You probably saw his two picks and made your decision based on that. His first pick was just a good play by a d-lineman getting a hand up to deflect it, and it was picked by another d-lineman. That rarely happens. His other pick, while it was his fault, really didn't hurt us. It was a third and long play that got intercepted down field so it was essentially a punt.

Gay Ork Wang · 10-06-2008, 04:19 PM

who wouldve thought that thee Titans would be the only team in the AFC to be undefeated...i thought they would hardly be the #2 team in their division

Geo · 10-06-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

You also have to consider who the Redskins have played. In their 5 games they have faced the Giants the #1 rated offense in the NFL, the Saints the 3rd rated Offense in the NFL, the Cardinals the 5th rated offense in the NFL, the Cowboys the 4th rated offense in the NFL, and the Eagles the 9th rated offense in the NFL. That's 5 top 9 offenses in the NFL and 4 top 5 offenses and they are still impressive. Can't wait for our next 3 game stretch when we face the Rams, the Lions, and the Browns.

Getting Jason Taylor and Shawn Springs healthy will be big.

SeanTaylorRIP · 10-06-2008, 04:38 PM

Yup we get back Marcus Washington too, but to be honest if it weren't for namesake HB Blades should be starting over Marcus Washington. Flat out he is a better player. Washington is slightly washed up and not capable of being an every down backer anymore. He would be a coveted defensive weapon if we just used him like last year, a 3rd down pass rusher with his hand down, and a rotational backer in certain sets. As is we play better when he is hurt and Blades is starting, but he is certain to come back from injury and get his spot back. Basically I am just ecstatic that we are the only team in the league who has already finished their division road schedule. We can make the playoffs even if we just win one of the 3 remaining division games, all at home.

bigbluedefense · 10-06-2008, 05:20 PM

I think the Skins defense is better without Taylor. At least on 1st and 2nd down that is.

We had a lot of fun running off tackle at Jason Taylor in week 1.

21ST · 10-06-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

aww, well aren't you a cute one?

redskin fans get so adorable when they start winning.

I asked a question.....

21ST · 10-06-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I think the Skins defense is better without Taylor. At least on 1st and 2nd down that is.

We had a lot of fun running off tackle at Jason Taylor in week 1.

Well he has been hurt all season

bigbluedefense · 10-06-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 21ST

Well he has been hurt all season

still though, even when healthy i don't see him holding up on the strongside.

just use him on passing downs, and you'll be fine.

what made the Skins great is that theyve been dominating both LOS every week except the 1st week.

I think a big reason why we ran so well on the skins is bc our oline is really good, but also bc Taylor was a liability.

21ST · 10-06-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

i must admit, i am very very impressed with their coverage schemes.

Their defense is built upon their safeties. Laron Landry is already the best safety in football, and Horton is not too shabby himself. Everything they do on defense in terms of coverage and coverage disguises starts with their safeties and their ridiculous range.

The craziest thing about LaRon is the isnt even the best saftey we have seen over the years. I swear all the time i just think what it would have been like with those 2 guys.

A Perfect Score · 10-06-2008, 07:00 PM

Just a thingy, dont look now, but the Baltimore Ravens have the best defense in the league by ALOT...they are only allowing 192 ypg from opposing offenses. Its like 50 yards better then the #2 defense in the league...yay!

Im sorry, I just dont have much to brag about these days concerning my Ravens I had to say something

NIN1984 · 10-06-2008, 10:43 PM

I was a huge Jason Campbell fan when he came out in the draft, I love watching him play and I'm glad he is playing so well.

jsagan77 · 10-06-2008, 11:04 PM

Does anyone else think that the Giants are a little over rated..? Not overated in a bad sense just "Best team in the NFL" overated... Don't get me wrong I think they are a top 4 team and a very good team but in all reality they really haven't played anyone yet.

They've had 3 of their 4 games at the Meadowlands and the teams they beat are a combined 6-12 I believe.. 2-11 when you take out the Skins game..

Their schedule doesn't get tough till midseason and continues to be so from there on out... I can't wait to see them during that stretch to see if all this high flying O and crushing run game isn't just an aberation of matchups...