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Old 10-11-2008, 02:43 PM    (permalink
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Lions should try and do this trade:

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And while they're at it, Detroit will get on their knees and wax the 9'ers pole.
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Profootball talk is reporting that the Chiefs are making an effort to trade Tony Gonzalez. Rumor is the Giants may be interested.
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GONZALEZ TO GIANTS?

I don't put to much stock in to PFT but our local news and radio has been talking about it as well I feel like some one kicked me in the balls.:(
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Damn, I even looked back, but not far enough!
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I would hate Tony G to finish his career somewhere else but he has been here for years, has always been a positive influence with the organization and has always been a real professional. I want him to have a real shot at a ring before his career is over.

Now, LJ on the other hand, get him the hell out of here as fast as humanly possible. He is still a great runner but I (and most KC fans) are tired of watching him NOT try. He knew we wouldn't be a great team but we have players (Jamaal Charles, Kolby Smith) who try every single opporunity they get and those are the kind of players you re-build a team with.
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Ill take no for 500
You'll take no? That trade is ******* ridiculous for the Lions considering that Lawson isn't anything special and Reggie Smith/third rounder is not worth Roy Williams/2nd rounder. What a horrid proposal.
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Gonazalez to the Falcons for a fourth. I would do it.
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Gonazalez to the Falcons for a fourth. I would do it.
He's worth more than a 4th.
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Gonazalez to the Falcons for a fourth. I would do it.
he wants to go to a contender... and that's stupid for the Falcons. regardless of how good they've looked at times this year, they shouldn't go trading draft picks for a 30+(32 i think?) year old TE, it'd be stupid.

I wouldn't mind the Giants giving up a 4th or PERHAPS a 3rd for him. we'd still have 2 2nds, so it'd be all good
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He's worth more than a 4th.
not by all that much. Perhaps a 3rd, considering it'd be from a contender most likely. He's an aging TE who's come out and requested a trade. He's on the decline because of his age. I'd give a 3rd for him.
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not by all that much. Perhaps a 3rd, considering it'd be from a contender most likely. He's an aging TE who's come out and requested a trade. He's on the decline because of his age. I'd give a 3rd for him.
I don't get why people think he's on the decline. I'm not going to post his last seasons stats again, because it'll all be argued that stats aren't everything anyway, but he is not declining. Most people equate age with decline and for Tony it just isn't there, yet anyway. If there is any decline in his play it's because our offense is so bad.

He, himself, is not in decline.
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I don't get why people think he's on the decline. I'm not going to post his last seasons stats again, because it'll all be argued that stats aren't everything anyway, but he is not declining. Most people equate age with decline and for Tony it just isn't there, yet anyway. If there is any decline in his play it's because our offense is so bad.

He, himself, is not in decline.
the physical toll of playing TE as well as getting older equal on the decline. I haven't heard much from him on the field this year and I take from that he's not putting up big numbers, albeit probably caused by KC's stagnant O, they don't help disprove the decline theory, especially when it comes for teams talking deals with the Chiefs
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http://www.kansascity.com/385/story/836918.html

I ******* love Jerry Reese.

and vidae- Gonzo specifically says he's winding down in his career in this article...
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I ******* love Jerry Reese.

and vidae- Gonzo specifically says he's winding down in his career in this article...
Jerry Reese is a bad ass the Chiefs want a third and he offers them a sixth lol.
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If Jerry Reese thinks thinks he's getting Gonzo for a 6th, he's dreaming...It's not like we have to trade Gonzo....
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he wants to go to a contender... and that's stupid for the Falcons. regardless of how good they've looked at times this year, they shouldn't go trading draft picks for a 30+(32 i think?) year old TE, it'd be stupid.

I wouldn't mind the Giants giving up a 4th or PERHAPS a 3rd for him. we'd still have 2 2nds, so it'd be all good
We want to compete now. A fourth for Gonzalez would be an upgrade.
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That's how it works all the time, not Just Jerry. That's usually how all negotiations work.
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If I was a Chiefs fan and Gonzo was traded for anything less than a 2nd (obviously a late one because it will be a contender), I would be seriously upset.
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Doesn't make sense for a team to give up a premium draft pick for a rental.

And you have to consider the leverage here...Chiefs have none.
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Doesn't make sense for a team to give up a premium draft pick for a rental.

And you have to consider the leverage here...Chiefs have none.
how many 3rd round picks can essentially make you head and shoulders the best team in your conference?

if the Giants get Gonzalez and Plax stays out of trouble, that offense will be a handful to go with their defense
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how many 3rd round picks can essentially make you head and shoulders the best team in your conference?

if the Giants get Gonzalez and Plax stays out of trouble, that offense will be a handful to go with their defense
Giants should trade for Roy Williams too.
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Giants should trade for Roy Williams too.
yanno, it goes to figure that you get what, 3 matt millen picks to work out? and one of them needs traded asap, lol.... its just sad. (well, not for me because i'm a bears fan...sad for you though, very sad...)
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:24 AM    (permalink
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how many 3rd round picks can essentially make you head and shoulders the best team in your conference?

if the Giants get Gonzalez and Plax stays out of trouble, that offense will be a handful to go with their defense
It's a rental though. You have to think long term when you are potentially dealing picks in the top 3 rounds. A 3rd round pick can be a very big addition to a team that drafts well, and Reese has shown his ability to do that.

This would also stunt the growth of Boss a little bit, whom has played well these first few weeks. And in a way, this kind of gives the notion that trading Shockey was a mistake. I just don't see it happening for anything more than a 4th rounder, and even that would have to have certain terms to it.
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Let the Bills and Chiefs put their byes to good use and hammer out a deal for Tony!
Gonzalez to the Bills, now that is an interesting idea.
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