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Old 11-02-2008, 11:39 PM    (permalink
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Has he done it with a patchwork WR corp and a half of a running back?
actually yes we just happen to have better talent with our patchwork WR corp
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Warner is creeping up the MVP boards. He's having a remarkable season.
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Larry Fitzgerald>any WR we have. I love Colston and all but he isn't near Larry. I'd definitely take the rest of our WRs over the rest of yours though. (Not counting Boldin of course.)
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1. Fitz > Colston
2. Boldin >>> Henderson
3. Breaston > Moore
4. Urban < Meachem
5. Doucet = Patten

just talent wise, don't feel like looking up stats

at TEs you kick our ass
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I've been meaning to mention this, and this might not be the ideal place, but Fitzgerald and Boldin are my top two receivers in the league. Not just talking about as a pair, those guys are the best imo.
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Andre Johnson says hi.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:07 AM    (permalink
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AJ has elite potential for sure, but he needs to stay healthy and produce consistently (seasons or otherwise). There's no way I can put him ahead of Boldin or Fitz, and probably Randy Moss and Reggie Wayne too, until he does that.
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AJ just happens to be my 3rd favorite WR, talent wise he is on par Q & Fitz but he hasn't equaled the production of them
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Andre's injury problems are overblown, and he does produce consistently. The fact that he plays for a terrible market and team doesnt help him too much.

He missed 3 games in 05, and that was his worst season with only 63 catches and 688 yards in 13 games.

In 2007 he missed 7 games but still racked up 60 receptions, 850 yards with 8 TDs.

Otherwise, he had 60 receptions for 1000 yards as a rookie, 80 for 1100, in his 2nd year, 100 for 1100 in his 4th year. He is on pace for a ridiculous season this year too.

But anyway... I thought you were talking about just this season. As for overall, I wouldn't have AJ at the top either. Larry Fitzgerald and Randy Moss would be top 5 for sure.
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this has encouraged me to make a mid-season all-pro thread
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this has encouraged me to make a mid-season all-pro thread
Matt Ryan better be there at 2nd string QB behind Warner.
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I LOVE Fitzgerald and Boldin btw, those guys are so awesome. Fitz has the best hands in the league, but Boldin doesn't get enough respect. He didn't even make Cowher's Top 12 receivers list today, which was disgusting. He's a beast.

Boldin set yet another record today, catching his 450th reception in only his 74th career game.
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he leads the league in TD catches and has missed 2 games
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Kurt Warner
16 Touchdowns - 6 Interceptions - 2,430 Yards - 210/295 - 70%

Drew Brees
15 Touchdowns - 7 Interceptions - 2,565 Yards - 210/305 - 70%

Clinton Portis
7 Touchdowns - 1 Fumble - 945 Yards - 190 Carries - 5 Average

Charles Woodson
2 Touchdowns - 4 Interceptions - 115 Yards - 20 Tackles - 12 Defections - 1 Sack

Justin McCarein – 3 Catches – 42 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Reggie Wayne – 2 Catches – 24 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Koren Robinson – 2 Catches – 23 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Michael Jenkins – 3 Catches – 38 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Ike Hilliard – 2 Catches – 21 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Terrell Owens – 2 Catches – 17 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Roy Williams – 3 Catches – 48 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Bernard Berrian – 3 Catches – 38 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
Total High's – 3 Catches – 48 Yards - 0 Touchdowns

Total - 20 Catches – 251 Yards – 0 Touchdowns – 2 CTH / 12 YD Average

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Okay. Did you purposely leave out Roddy White's couple of catches on Charles Woodson? And do you seriously think he deserves MVP or DPOTY?
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Okay. Did you purposely leave out Roddy White's couple of catches on Charles Woodson? And do you seriously think he deserves MVP or DPOTY?
Actually Tramon Williams was covering White. Theres a reason why Williams had 11 tackles in that game and thats because of Mr.Roddy White. As you can tell by watching the game or even the highlights below.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_i...2008&week=REG5 - Game Highlight

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b674cb - Roddy White
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b68f26 - Roddy White
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b69040 - Roddy White

So yeah the stats are what they are. Not saying Roddy White would not have had a good game cause we both know hes a monster but he would not have had that great of a game but there was no chance that Tramon Williams could have matched up to Michael Jenkins with his size and power. So the Packers had to do what they had to do to win the game.

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Actually Tramon Williams was covering White. Theres a reason why Williams had 11 tackles in that game and thats because of Mr.Roddy White. As you can tell by watching that highlights of the game.

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Is that sarcasm lol
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Is that sarcasm lol
No, not at all. I'm cereal.

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You asked if I'm saying defensive player of the year? Yeah pretty much his year is not one of the greatest ever and thats what it would take for a defensive player to win it.
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Wow. Darrelle Revis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles Woodson.

No homer.

Revis has 28 tackles, 4 INTs, 1 FF, 1 FR, and 1 TD.
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Wow. Darrelle Revis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles Woodson.

No homer.

Revis has 28 tackles, 4 INTs, 1 FF, 1 FR, and 1 TD.
Dude Im a jet fan but come on. Woodson has gone up against T.O and Roy Williams and Reggie Wayne and not only destroyed them but made them look silly combined they went for 7-89-0. Not to mention he has not allowed a touchdown, not to mention he is barley thrown to. Revis is a monster no lie but Woodson is having one hell of a year. Revis also has Kerry Rhodes over his shoulders which helps a worlds load. Revis in that Cardinals game gave up half the amount of catches allowed all year.

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Chad Pennington - Not bad not good
Matt Cassel - HAHA
Philip Rivers - He played pretty well against the Chargers
Kurt Warner - 30 Catches 400 Yards by 3 the receivers (He played horrible)
Ryan Fitzpatrick - HAHA
JaMarcus Russell - HAHA
Tyler Thigpen - HAHA


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Travis Jackson - Okay is he even in the league still?
Jon Kitna - Again is he even in the league?
Tony Romo - Great Qb (Plus Owens)
Jeff Garcia - Good Qb. 6/8 People on that list
Matt Ryan - Had his best game won the game for his team.
Charlie Frye - Yeah I'm laughing too.
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Kerry Collins - He's played well. 6/8 People on that list

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I would have to say Antoine Winfield is having the best year of any corner so far....not sure how the numbers game works...but he does more than any corner in the league and does it every play every game.
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I would have to say Antoine Winfield is having the best year of any corner so far....not sure how the numbers game works...but he does more than any corner in the league and does it every play every game.
Winfield was a bit more amazing to me in the first few games. Lately he kind of has not played his best after that Saints game. 11cths/226yds/3tds in the last three games.

But what he does is amazing with 40 tackles but he had 30 of them in the first 5 games and only had 10 in the last 3 for a guy who does a lot it is pretty low. If he picks his play back to as amazing it was then I would agree with you.

Its going to be Albert Haynesworth or Charles Woodson in my book

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