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Old 10-22-2008, 12:36 PM    (permalink
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I won't even be a homer and put Horton over Mayo at this point. 1st rounder vs 7th and lets compare the stats:

Mayo: 42 tackles 1 fumble recovery
Horton: 37 tackles, 7 pdef, 3 int, 1 fumble recovery

Plus Horton has only started 5 games out of the 7 hes played in.
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MVP: He is on pace for what, 1600+ yards? Beast.
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If it's a close call I think homerism is a great tie-breaker!

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While I do think Brees is very valuable to the Saints, they just are not winning games. I know their Defense isn't great but he isn't the most valuable player in the league. His numbers are nice but not out of the world. He is on pace for over 5,000 yards passing which is amazing but he is only on pace to throw for 27 TD and 17 INT. 27 TD's is good but its pro bowl worthy not MVP worthy.
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I won't even be a homer and put Horton over Mayo at this point. 1st rounder vs 7th and lets compare the stats:

Mayo: 42 tackles 1 fumble recovery
Horton: 37 tackles, 7 pdef, 3 int, 1 fumble recovery

Plus Horton has only started 5 games out of the 7 hes played in.
Lol...New England is grasping at straws for anything to make them feel good this season, don't mess up their only inkling of hope for the future. The Patriots have gotten old...and all at once. Not fast by any means cause they've been old, but their players are feeling the effects for the first time...at least they're doing something as a team.
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While I do think Brees is very valuable to the Saints, they just are not winning games. I know their Defense isn't great but he isn't the most valuable player in the league. His numbers are nice but not out of the world. He is on pace for over 5,000 yards passing which is amazing but he is only on pace to throw for 27 TD and 17 INT. 27 TD's is good but its pro bowl worthy not MVP worthy.
So basically having better receivers makes one QB more valuable than another.
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So basically having better receivers makes one QB more valuable than another.
No, the Saints are not winning games so it's hard to justify Brees winning MVP. It's like the Heisman trophy, a guy can light up the NCAA but if his team has a .500 record he's not going to win it. Brees' yards don't match up with his TD's because instead of handing off to Bush they throw it to him, so instead of Bush having a lot of rushing yards he gets them from passes thus inflating Brees' yards. If you take Brees off the Saints do they win less games? Maybe, but they are not really winning games with him anyway.
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Lol...New England is grasping at straws for anything to make them feel good this season, don't mess up their only inkling of hope for the future. The Patriots have gotten old...and all at once. Not fast by any means cause they've been old, but their players are feeling the effects for the first time...at least they're doing something as a team.
As a Falcons fan you must know what that feels like eh?
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Zing? Bad time to knock the falcons. Check back later when they've lost the division lead.
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Wow, I've gone through countless pages of discussion and no one has mentioned one of the more obvious choices yet...

I mean, Brad Johnson has got to be in the discussion at this point.
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yeah brad johnson for mvp and martellus bennett for oroy,dudes just sad because pacman ****** your team up.i will regretably give you props for sticking with your team even when the goings get tough... cowboy fan
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on a more serious note, portis for mvp
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I do not see how Brad Johnson cannot be in this conversation. I mean come on lets get real.

Seriously though Portis probably pulled ahead this week.
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What chance do you give Romo if he returns to the team at 4-5 and leads us back to the playoffs undefeated~!
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What chance do you give Romo if he returns to the team at 4-5 and leads us back to the playoffs undefeated~!
If that happens he's prolly going to lock it up to be honest. Cowboys have a ton of talent, but have looked bad all year, if he can come back and bring a losing team into the playoffs from the NFC East, I'll be impressed no doubt, plus he has the media stroking him already even when he sucks. So he'd have a great shot at it. But if Portis continues on his pace and the Skins keep playing good ball it's not going to be close for long.
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Blasphemy.

Tony isn't getting his job back. With the way Brad has been playing, Tony is headed back to the bench he came from.

Just wait for Brad "The Bull" Johnson to pad those stats a little more this weekend. Then it should be all wrapped up.
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Zing? Bad time to knock the falcons. Check back later when they've lost the division lead.
Might as well not check back at all.

Zing.
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Anyone know where someone could get a list of the Offensive and Defensive players of the week?
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Portis went for 126yards today.

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2. Adrian Peterson 684 yards 5 td
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He is playing like a man possessed. Great consistency out of him.
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Reggie Bush goes down, Drew Breesus comes out and throws for 339 and 3 touchdowns.
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I'm going to be honest, Drew Brees is playing great football, I would give him the nod for mvp if his INT count was lower, but for now considering how far ahead of the pack portis is compared to everyone else i would give it to him.
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Right Now I would say

1. Portis
2. Haynesworth
3. Brees

I hate seeing a guy get the MVP when the team is just Average which is my problem with Brees.
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I would give it to Portis if he was running behind no offensive line and had no passing game to help out.

Portis might have prettier stats, but Brees' supporting cast right now is looking brutal.....

It will be hard to argue if the Aints make the playoffs and Brees cracks 5000 yards.
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