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Old 10-18-2008, 02:11 PM    (permalink
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Reggie Bush is better than Felix. Bush on the Cowboys would be so insane.
Bush on anyone with an OL would be insane. I'd love him in Philly.
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Everyone loves to hate Bush and I have been the biggest hater of him all the way back to when he was at USC, but I'm not denying the weapon he is. Also just because we all hate Bush it we shouldn't give Felix Jones more credit than he deserves. Promising young scat back, but I am not sold on him because of a few kick returns and big runs here and there.
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Promising young scat back, but I am not sold on him because of a few kick returns and big runs here and there.
Are we talking about Reggie here or Felix?
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He is talking about Felix Jones, and I agree with him. (right?)
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As a RB? Felix Jones. As a gimmick Reggie Bust.
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The answer is simple. Jerious Norwood.
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I will say this: Felix has already shown more as a runner to this point in his career than Reggie has. And anyone that calls him a scat back is out of the loop. Felix has shown a natural ability to run between the tackles that I've never seen from Reggie Bush. I think that he will be a full time back somewhere in the league by his 4th season, at the latest. When it happens, he will become a superstar. The guy just is a natural at running the ball in traffic.

All that said, I think that Reggie is the single most impressive athlete in the NFL right now, narrowly edging out Calvin Johnson. He doesn't have the natural running abilities, or the patience, or the sense of how to use blocks, but his combo of speed, agility, acceleration, explosiveness and movement in space is unmatched in the league at this point in time. If I had to choose, everything else being equal, I would take him on the Cowboys right now above Felix. But his salary, imo, is the deal breaker.
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The answer is simple. Jerious Norwood.
Yeaaaaah. He has not gotten his share of touches in the past couple of games.
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Yeaaaaah. He has not gotten his share of touches in the past couple of games.

He kind of gets lost in the shuffle in these types of conversations. He's got 4.3 speed. He's averaged over 6 YPC every year in the NFL, and can catch some too. Not to mention, he's a dynamite KR at a 3rd rounder's cost.
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This would have been a more interesting question prior to this year, before Bush was solidly in the MVP discussion.

I'll say this. Bush gets an bad rap for not fitting the running back model, but I think he's the most dynamic scoring threat in NFL right now and he makes so much of that Payton offense run with the attention defenders have to give him. You don't have to fit your listed position to a T to be a great player.

As for Jones, I love him as a player. I had him rated ahead of Jonathan Stewart before the draft. He's great in tight spaces and he's great in the open field. His body can handle more weight and I don't expect im to lose much speed whe it does. I think he could eventually be a Curtis Martin-style runner once he gets a starting job somewhere.

Bush is definitely better right now, and while I fully expect Jones' career rushing numbers to look better than Bush's, I also expect Bush to have the better overall career.
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This would have been a more interesting question prior to this year, before Bush was solidly in the MVP discussion.

I'll say this. Bush gets an bad rap for not fitting the running back model, but I think he's the most dynamic scoring threat in NFL right now and he makes so much of that Payton offense run with the attention defenders have to give him. You don't have to fit your listed position to a T to be a great player.
Great points, Paramoid.

And, I highlighted that in bold because most people seem to not buy that theory around here. *shrugs*
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He kind of gets lost in the shuffle in these types of conversations. He's got 4.3 speed. He's averaged over 6 YPC every year in the NFL, and can catch some too. Not to mention, he's a dynamite KR at a 3rd rounder's cost.
This is true. I guess he doesnt get enough touches to warrant himself in discussions like these. He had like what, 4 non KR touches last game?
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This is true. I guess he doesnt get enough touches to warrant himself in discussions like these. He had like what, 4 non KR touches last game?

Yeah, this is true. He should be getting the ball more. However, Jerious>all.
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This would have been a more interesting question prior to this year, before Bush was solidly in the MVP discussion.

I'll say this. Bush gets an bad rap for not fitting the running back model, but I think he's the most dynamic scoring threat in NFL right now and he makes so much of that Payton offense run with the attention defenders have to give him. You don't have to fit your listed position to a T to be a great player.
Bush in the mvp race is a joke.

He's still a poor mans Brian Westbrook.
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Bush in the mvp race is a joke.

He's still a poor mans Brian Westbrook.
how cant he be? he is second in receptions, has more receiving yards than guys like Moss, Bowe and Burress and he has a lot lot lot of TDs.
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Bush in the mvp race is a joke.

He's still a poor mans Brian Westbrook.
Tis a reality. Before the season the last statement would've been fairly accurate however not anymore sir. Times have sure changed indeed. Let's just accept Bush for what he is b/c I don't know about you but this is getting so repetitive and annoying.
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Cowboys fans takes Bush, and every Saints fan is going to take Bush, yet everyone from NFC south teams are against Bush....

I think that speaks volumes. But hey, Mike Vick is gone, everyone needs a new guy to hate on. We'll keep him racking up scores and leaving defensive coordinators frantic. Everyone else can pretend they know why his YPC is so low, and pretend it's all his fault if it makes them feel better.
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Bush in the mvp race is a joke.

He's still a poor mans Brian Westbrook.
I don't think Westbrook to Bush is a fair comparison anymore. Bush is tied for the fastest man to 200 receptions. He already has 8 touchdowns this season, putting him on pace for over 21 touchdowns if he plays all 16 games. Westbrook has never scored over 12. In 34 games Bush has almost half as many yards through the air as Wesbtook has in 89 games.

The players aren't really comparable, because Bush is simply different than almost every other tailback in the NFL right now. Westbrook might be his closest relative in playing style, but that's about as far as one can push it.
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Career? Who knows? Felix will probably be Brian Westbrook down the line but, it's going to be quite a while yet until he becomes a starter. I love both players, Felix's vision is already up there w/ some of the best backs in the league and he can turn on a dime, the guy is simply an exceptional talent. He's certainly the superior RB between these two, not only is he an electrifying player in open space but, he has the body and vision to run very effectively in between the tackles. He's going to be an every down guy before it's all said and done. Reggie on the other hand is Reggie. Obviously he's still having trouble carrying the football but, he is one of the most dynamic players in the league and one of my favs. Both these guys are going to be two of the leagues best and exciting players for a long time. I'd be happy w/ either and I certainly am happy w/ my boy the Cat. :)
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