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Old 10-28-2008, 07:35 PM    (permalink
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They're chemically different and have completley different side affects.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:39 PM    (permalink
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What do side effects have to do with anything? They are both performance enhancers.
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Update: Jamar Nesbitt, guard for the Saints, received a 4-game suspension after testing positive for the same substance in the "water pills".

He was not, however, taking water pills--- he was taking another legal supplement that was incidentally contaminated by the banned substance. The banned substance was not on the ingredient list.
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Sucks for Nesbit, but it is clear in the policy that players are responsible for what they take. And I saw on ESPN bottomline that Nesbit is sueing the company because of the contamination.
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Sucks for Nesbit, but it is clear in the policy that players are responsible for what they take. And I saw on ESPN bottomline that Nesbit is sueing the company because of the contamination.
Which, imo, is a good thing. Businesses should be held responsible for putting on the label what they have in their products.

I think at the core of the issue though, it's still more than steroids and more about fat asses.
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Lol, than say good bye to half the league. I don't get why people are so against anabolic steroids, I mean cortico steroids are legal. If players did not take cortico steroids they would miss a lot more games than they do now. Plus cortico steroids can take away pain but the injury is still there and it can cause more damage if they keep playing through injury.
If that is the case, then so be it. I wish the leagues and our government (not intended politically) would have the cajones to make the people caught with the illegal performance-enhancing substances pay the price, and an actual one, not the slap on the wrist that does nothing. It is extreme, but people caught using performance enhancers that are illegal should be kicked out after their second confirmed offense. I wouldn't want it to be the first because they are lab errors that oculd occur. I go by the saying, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." After that, players should be done for life.

I had a friend who was on steroids for a bit, it changed him so much, he got in so much trouble and got in trouble with the cops because of anger problems. I've seen how it changes people, and I don't think anyone should have to live with that. i.e family and friends. People would sya the most inconsequential thing and he would say, "What, you wanna fight?" Some times he would be joking, but others he wasn't and it is impossible to tell until he started going berserk. Luckily, he is off now, but he was on for about a year and he was completely different person. It is something you don't really see until it happerns first hand.
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:09 PM    (permalink
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Sucks for Nesbit, but it is clear in the policy that players are responsible for what they take. And I saw on ESPN bottomline that Nesbit is sueing the company because of the contamination.
I can understand a case like that where a chemical that isn't supposed to be in there is put in by accident, but most situations are inexcusable.
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how many players are involved exactly? is there anywhere with an exact list?
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Did I kill this thread by getting too serious?

If so, my bad guys, I'm sorry.
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