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Old 10-27-2008, 12:10 AM    (permalink
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Singletary is fed up with the teams effort im sure, but if Vernon dedicates himself to getting better, and just does little things like asking the coach "hey, how can I do this better?" Mike Singletary will embrace him, and WANT to teach him.
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It sounds like Mike has been dissapointed with Vernon going half ass since he got to SF. It sounds like it is doing Vernon some good though.

"Coach Singletary told me to go sit down, and after a while, he told me to just take a shower and take it in," Davis said. "He's a good coach. Coach Singletary is an emotional guy, just like myself. He wants to win, and I did exactly what he told me to do. He is the head coach, and I listen to him. He just told me to come in, and I went in."

Davis wanted to talk to his coach after the game, but Singletary advised against it.

"I told him he did not want to talk to me," Singletary said. "I assured him, 'You do not want to talk to me right now.' "

Hope he finally figures it out.
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I really can't help but root for a guy like Singletary. You know he has the ability to lead a team and he'll handle his players really well, but there are a lot of potential pitfalls in San Francisco. I'm sure he'd get a chance somewhere else, but this is a big opportunity for him.
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That actually sounds good to me, I'm hoping he gets it together.
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I hope he does too I don't like busts :(
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Cedric Benson cried too...
If I remember correctly, Cedric Benson cried because he was relieved the interviewing and vetting process was over. He found the idea that teams might actually ask him questions about his motivation, his work ethic, and any similarities to Ricky Williams disgusting and offensive.

As far as I'm concerned Vernon Davis > Cedric Benson as far as attitude.
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I really can't help but root for a guy like Singletary. You know he has the ability to lead a team and he'll handle his players really well, but there are a lot of potential pitfalls in San Francisco. I'm sure he'd get a chance somewhere else, but this is a big opportunity for him.
I wish we had signed him as a LBs coach back when he was first getting into coaching so he could be rising up our system. Just gotta love the man.
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It sounds like Mike has been dissapointed with Vernon going half ass since he got to SF. It sounds like it is doing Vernon some good though.

"Coach Singletary told me to go sit down, and after a while, he told me to just take a shower and take it in," Davis said. "He's a good coach. Coach Singletary is an emotional guy, just like myself. He wants to win, and I did exactly what he told me to do. He is the head coach, and I listen to him. He just told me to come in, and I went in."

Davis wanted to talk to his coach after the game, but Singletary advised against it.

"I told him he did not want to talk to me," Singletary said. "I assured him, 'You do not want to talk to me right now.' "

Hope he finally figures it out.
Personally, I would follow that advice as closely as possible... Made me laugh when I read it.
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I thought that was awesome. I wish someone would have done that to T.O. at some points in his career.
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Singletary is playing with fire. I understand his reasoning but leave the hardcore scolding and yelling to the HS and college coaches. That shtick gets really old to grown men.
Ask Coughlin about that. He was criticized terribly by his players for being a "tyrant" so he held back a bit and we all know the story after that.
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Singletary is playing with fire. I understand his reasoning but leave the hardcore scolding and yelling to the HS and college coaches. That shtick gets really old to grown men.
Ask Coughlin about that. He was criticized terribly by his players for being a "tyrant" so he held back a bit and we all know the story after that.
Thing is with Coughlin though, he did get the respect of the majority of his players. Those who didn't (Tiki, Shockey) ended up not being part of their superbowl run. Eventually other vets like Strahan bought in and Coughlin could calm down a little.

Right now, the 49ers are a losing football team. Singletary is giving them a much needed kick in the ass and the players who buy in and respect him will be better off for it down the road imo.
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He will fix the culture in SF.

Now I see what the team owners saw in him when they interviewed him.
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So far... Vernon AND Singletary(coaching) are both all talk off the field and empty results on it. So I say **** them both until they prove otherwise. For someone who supposedly has the ability to "inspire men" the Niners sure came out flat yesterday. It was nothing different from Mike Nolan.. more bad decisions more blown out losses.
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If I remember correctly, Cedric Benson cried because he was relieved the interviewing and vetting process was over. He found the idea that teams might actually ask him questions about his motivation, his work ethic, and any similarities to Ricky Williams disgusting and offensive.

As far as I'm concerned Vernon Davis > Cedric Benson as far as attitude.
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So far... Vernon AND Singletary(coaching) are both all talk off the field and empty results on it. So I say **** them both until they prove otherwise. For someone who supposedly has the ability to "inspire men" the Niners sure came out flat yesterday. It was nothing different from Mike Nolan.. more bad decisions more blown out losses.
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So far... Vernon AND Singletary(coaching) are both all talk off the field and empty results on it. So I say **** them both until they prove otherwise. For someone who supposedly has the ability to "inspire men" the Niners sure came out flat yesterday. It was nothing different from Mike Nolan.. more bad decisions more blown out losses.
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Singletary is playing with fire. I understand his reasoning but leave the hardcore scolding and yelling to the HS and college coaches. That shtick gets really old to grown men.
Ask Coughlin about that. He was criticized terribly by his players for being a "tyrant" so he held back a bit and we all know the story after that.
I think he can get away with it here cause they're young and in the case of Vernon Davis his mentality is at the highschool or college level. Once they mature and everyone is playing like pros he can back off. I thought it was a breath of fresh air to tell the truth. Heck he played for Ditka and Buddy Ryan he probably knows a thing or two about tough love.
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I want to see some new Xs and Os on that team. Hopefully he brings in some pressure based scheme, or even a Tampa 2.

I think Willis would thrive in Tampa 2, or a 46 style 4-3 defense. They need a complete overhaul of that defense though. Willis and Clements are nice building blocks, but they need to redo the rest of that defense.
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I think he can get away with it here cause they're young and in the case of Vernon Davis his mentality is at the highschool or college level. Once they mature and everyone is playing like pros he can back off. I thought it was a breath of fresh air to tell the truth. Heck he played for Ditka and Buddy Ryan he probably knows a thing or two about tough love.
Yeah, agreed. You can rule with an iron fist and loosen the grip but you can't start with a loose grip and tighten it.

but he will have to lighten up eventually. Gruden didn't his first few years and he lost the locker room, so to speak. Players were taking shots at him in the media and whatnot.
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how much moneys are the 9ers going to have left once they either trade or release Alex Smith and Vernon Davis?
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how much moneys are the 9ers going to have left once they either trade or release Alex Smith and Vernon Davis?
I'm not sure how much they make but here is the rundown of cap ATM. I'm sure you could do some elementary math and figure that out.

Tampa Bay $26.30 million
Kansas City $22.74 million
Green Bay $20.04 million
Miami $15.33 million
Cincinnati $11.80 million
Buffalo $9.78 million
New Orleans $8.56 million
N.Y. Giants $8.12 million
Philadelphia $7.60 million
Atlanta $7.28 million
Tennessee $7.05 million
San Francisco $6.55 million
Denver $6.45 million
Dallas $6.27 million
Carolina $6.24 million
Jacksonville $5.95 million
Seattle $5.95 million
Cleveland $5.45 million
Indianapolis $5.32 million
New England $3.53 million
Houston $3.52 million
Oakland $3.44 million
Minnesota $2.60 million
San Diego $2.55 million
Arizona $2.39 million
Pittsburgh $2.21 million
Baltimore $1.99 million
Detroit $1.99 million
N.Y. Jets $1.79 million
St. Louis $1.74 million
Washington $1.48 million
Chicago $318,000

I'm tempted to make a thread with these numbers. I don't really want to hijack.

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They should go after Julius Peppers in FA.

I know Peppers isn't the greatest pass rusher in the world, but Id love to see a rebuilding project in SF with a 4-3 defense with Peppers on the line, Willis at MIKE and Clements at CB. Thats 3 nice building blocks to feed off of.
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how much moneys are the 9ers going to have left once they either trade or release Alex Smith and Vernon Davis?
Alot...probably in the 30-35 mil range.
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