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Old 01-10-2009, 11:00 PM    (permalink
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Laugh all you want. Morrison is average at best, regardless of scheme. He's had plenty of time to prove that. A handful of noteworthy plays doesn't make him special. Otherwise, we'd be using Ronald Curry as a reason to not draft a WR.
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Laugh all you want. Morrison is average at best, regardless of scheme. He's had plenty of time to prove that. A handful of noteworthy plays doesn't make him special. Otherwise, we'd be using Ronald Curry as a reason to not draft a WR.
It's because Morrison is playing out of position, he's not stout enough to man the middle but he'd make a great strong side backer if we drafted Curry.
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He can't shed blocks. He whiffs too many tackles when he's not being blocked. How would moving him to the strong side help? That would only expose his weaknesses even more.

The only chance Morrison has to be a decent starter would be to add two big DTs. A Tony Siragusa/Sam Adams type of tandem. If he's not kept clean, he'll continue to fail.

If we did take Curry, I think Curry would man the strong side. Not that Al would take a LB that high, of course.
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What would you guys think if the Raiders drafted Maclin or Harvin?
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With the #7 pick? Maclin I might be able to stomach, because I really do like him as a prospect, even if it would be a decent breach of value. Harvin would be unacceptable.
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mock raiders draft.
trade j.fargas to the c.bengals for a 5th rd pick
trade down from # 7 to philly for 16th and 29th ( assuming they lose sunday)

1. michael oher ot - russell needs protection and a solid tackle to help give him time in the pocket. mcfadden i'm sure will run on his side of the ball.
1. victor harris cb - oakland has a decision to make on aso. this pick will assure them they have a solid corner for years to come. davis picks corners for the sake of just doing it.
2. percy hervin wr - russell needs targets!
3. cody brown de - their d-line is getting old, time to bring in some fresh new blood.
4. johnathan casillas olb - again, defense didn't live up the bill this season and a few lbs were playing out of position. this pick is solid and adds much needed depth.
5. ray feinga g - the o-line is pathetic. they need to draft more guys upfront.
5. curtis painter qb - not a big need but could pay dividends if russell gets hurt. i don't like walter or any other scrub coming in sucking it up if he got hurt
6. pat white wr - not sure how he will be as a wr, but r.curry turned out decent when he made a switch of position.
7. lendy holmes s - i have to be honest, this years crop of safetys are not that great. pass dre moore and rashad johnson i'm not sold on any of them. but oakland needs secondary help.
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If Crabtree is gone by the time we pick, I'm 100 % on board with drafting Oher.
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1 Jason Smith LT- I still dont believe Mario is the long term answer at LT. Smith fits our ZBC perfectly.

2 Hakeem Nicks WR- I am very high on this guy. He reminds me of a Anquan Boldin type WR. Runs great routes, decent size and speed.

3 Ron Brace NT- IDK if he will drop to here, but if he does we should draft him quickly. Terdell Sands should be cut, so a NT is a huge need.

4 Will Davis DE- A decent DE with good size. Good at getting the QB which is a huge problem for our defense.

6 Ramses Barden WR- Huge WR at 6'6 with alright speed. Will be a great endzone threat.

7 Lee Robinson OLB- This guy should have a chance to start for us. Other than Morrison and Howard are LB's are horrible. This guy could be a steal this late
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New Big Board

1. Eugene Monroe
2. Michael Crabtree
3. BJ Raji
4. Jason Smith
5. Andre Smith
6. Jeremy Maclin
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1 Jason Smith LT- I still dont believe Mario is the long term answer at LT. Smith fits our ZBC perfectly.

2 Hakeem Nicks WR- I am very high on this guy. He reminds me of a Anquan Boldin type WR. Runs great routes, decent size and speed.

3 Ron Brace NT- IDK if he will drop to here, but if he does we should draft him quickly. Terdell Sands should be cut, so a NT is a huge need.

4 Will Davis DE- A decent DE with good size. Good at getting the QB which is a huge problem for our defense.

6 Ramses Barden WR- Huge WR at 6'6 with alright speed. Will be a great endzone threat.

7 Lee Robinson OLB- This guy should have a chance to start for us. Other than Morrison and Howard are LB's are horrible. This guy could be a steal this late
great mock!!! I like the Hakeem Nicks in the 2nd and the Ron Brace pick in the 3rd.
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1. Eugene Monroe
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3. BJ Raji
4. Jason Smith
5. Andre Smith
6. Jeremy Maclin
Id probably take Andre Smith out of our big board. Unless we think he would be our RT.
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Id probably take Andre Smith out of our big board. Unless we think he would be our RT.
That's what I'm suggesting, yes. He'd start out at right tackle and could conceivably move to left if Henderson falls on his face.
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After seeing Senior Bowl practices I keep coming back to drafting Maualuga with the 7th pick if Crabtree is not there and if there is no trade down. This freakin team needs TOUGHNESS and even if Rey doesn’t make the play, it will allow the other defenders to make the play. He will have no weight issues...he will be a Polamalu type of player. Hmmm….lets see…

Round 1- MLB- Rey Maualuga (need a nasty MLB who will lay the wood and help this team get tougher)

Round 2- DT- Evander “Ziggy” Hood (another strong, fast and tough player who is aggressive and can also see spot duty as a 4-3 DE)

Round 3- RG/RT- Trevor Canfield (another player with a mean streak who is tough and physical and will only get stronger, best fit for a ZBS team as a RG or RT.)

Round 4- WR- Demetrius Byrd- Solid build and has upside. At LSU he was a deep threat, from what people say he just needs to work on his concentration and route running.

DE Robert Ayers might be there in round 4 and also Center Jonathan Luigs might be there in round 4 as well.


I also would like to see the team draft FB Quinn Johnson from LSU in the later rounds. He is stud of a blocking FB and he can catch the ball out of the backfield. Need a blocking FB to replace O'Neal who will not be ready to go next year. Griffith is not a pure blocking FB.

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This wouldn't be the right time to be advocating Rey Rey for the 7th pick after numerous inconsistenices throughout the week. It's simple, if Crabtree is off the board and the front office is sold on avoiding offensive tackle completely in round one then the choice will more than likely be an athlete like Maclin or even possibly Harvin if he's able to make a serious push in the coming months.
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Raiders Round 2 is up in the voting mock if you care to cast your ballot.
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The Raiders have to walk away with a tackle with their first pick. I think Crabtree is the best player in the draft, but all the top tackles will be gone by the time the Raiders pick in the 2nd round. Hell, I'd even advocate the Raiders grabbing Unger or Mack to play Center at the top of the 2nd round then targeting a player like Iglesias or Robiskie in the 3rd.

The only player I might seriously look at in the 1st other than a tackle would be B.J. Raji. While I like Brian Orakpo, I think the Raiders can coax enough pass rush out of Edwards, Burgess (if he returns), and youngsters Richardson and Scott. The Raiders are getting almost no production out of the DT position and while I like Kelly as a high effort type player (I liken him to a Corey Redding), he needs a guy who commands constant double teams and can tie up blockers like Raji.

If that's the case, then the Raiders should target the best tackle left on the board which might be a guy like Eben Britton.

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My Revised preferred Raider Mock....

RD 1- OT Eugene Monroe (this guy will be a solid RT or LT in the ZBS under Cables tutelage. This team needs to get tougher, stronger and nastier. It starts with this guy)

RD 2- DT Evander "Ziggy" Hood or Fili Moala (tougher stronger and nastier continues)

RD 3- MLB Jasper Brinkley (a 6'3 265-270 pound BEAST of a MLB who will help against the run and continue the tougher, stonger and nastier theme of this draft.....we can move Morrison back to OLB)

RD 4- WR Patrick Turner (chances are this big and strong WR will be gone in Round 3, but if he is there when we pick in round 4, they should snatch him. Hasn't played his best football yet and may not have elite speed, but is a good route runner.)

In the later Rounds 6 or 7, the pick should be blocking FB Quinn Johnson from LSU...since Oren O'Neal will not be ready to play next year. Johnson can also catch passes out of the backfield.

Remember this draft needs to be about drafting players who are TOUGHER, STRONGER, AND NASTIER than the previous drafts where the focus was mainly on atheletes who ran 4.3 or 4.4 40 times.
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I'm trying not to fall into this Raji hype, but he almost makes too much sense as well. That's if Crabs is gone, of course.
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I don't think Raji is worth the 7th overall pick but I certainly wouldn't complain if he ended up being the pick. Its about time we address the trenches through the draft.And Raji and Kelly in the middle could be pretty good.
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Does anyone else think Al Davis will simply avoid drafting defense on day one because we need JaMarcus Russell be be successful? If Russell was to bust it could hurt us for years no matter what we have on defense. I really wouldn't be surprised if we draft offense with the first 3 picks...

I'm not saying this is the right thing to do but I just have that feeling.
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A big NO to taking Raji at #7.

If the old man wants to do that, then he better TRADE DOWN!

I think Peria Jerry will be better than Raji anyway!
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Russel will need targets..although he will also need time..WR/OL first round depending on the talent..then maybe a DL or DB
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1 OT
2 WR
3 NT
4 DE
5 OG/C
6 FS
7 OLB
That would be my draft plan if we were to pick by positions
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The two guys atop my Raiders big board right now after the Cable hiring would probably be B.J. Raji and Andre Smith. I know there are rumors Cable would look elsewhere than OT in round one, but Andre Smith would look awfully nice on the right side across from Super Mario ..
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Would be better to take a guy who could actually play LT just in case Henderson falls on his face, which is entirely likely.

I'm hoping for Monroe/Jason Smith, expecting Maclin, and already prepared to laugh at how ridiculous our draft was.
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