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USC offensive coordinator Clay Helton seems to be the hot rumor.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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But Steve Sarkisian back in?

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/colle...teve-sarkisian


Between the two I'd rather have Franklin. 34-29 at Washington vs. 23-15 at Vanderbilt. Pretty easy call.
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But Steve Sarkisian back in?

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/colle...teve-sarkisian


Between the two I'd rather have Franklin. 34-29 at Washington vs. 23-15 at Vanderbilt. Pretty easy call.
Yeah, CP withdrawing his name stings bad. I have wanted him from the last time the job opened and it looked very imminent this time.

However, like you said...I am much higher on Franklin than I am Sark. I believe Sark has done a decent job at UW, but I do not think he is ready for USC.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Chris Petersen withdraws his name from USC coaching search per Joe Schad at ESPN.

Steve Sarkisian, James Franklin, and Jack Del Rio are top 3 targets.


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I'm not sure what USC expected, honestly. There's a reason why most of the top programs are holding on to their coaches this year.

That's not to say that Kiffin shouldn't have been fired, but the market is pretty bare. I think Franklin would be a solid hire.
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I'm not sure what USC expected, honestly. There's a reason why most of the top programs are holding on to their coaches this year.

That's not to say that Kiffin shouldn't have been fired, but the market is pretty bare. I think Franklin would be a solid hire.
I mean typically if you are a program like USC you think you can get just about anyone...so they are trying.

With all that being said a Franklin/Coach O/Tee Martin staff would be electric on the recruiting trail.

I would also make a call to Gus Malzahn, but I don't see him leaving the south. I do make him say no first, though.
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But who is "anyone"? I guess you could kick the tires on Sumlin or Malzahn, but those guys have pretty sweet gigs with lots of job security, money, and recruits.

Chris Petersen already turned down USC once, and UCLA, so again I'm not really sure what they were expecting.

James Franklin would be about as good as USC could have reasonably expected.

This is why Florida is keeping Muschamp and Nebraska is keeping Pelini.
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But who is "anyone"? I guess you could kick the tires on Sumlin or Malzahn, but those guys have pretty sweet gigs with lots of job security, money, and recruits.

Chris Petersen already turned down USC once, and UCLA, so again I'm not really sure what they were expecting.

James Franklin would be about as good as USC could have reasonably expected.

This is why Florida is keeping Muschamp and Nebraska is keeping Pelini.
Also why USC should keep Coach O at head coach. The next 2 years are going to be brutal in terms of scholarship players on this Trojan squad. Recruit the hell out of the local recruits in the that time and when a big fish coach comes swimming snag him up.
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what makes USC such a draw?
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But who is "anyone"? I guess you could kick the tires on Sumlin or Malzahn, but those guys have pretty sweet gigs with lots of job security, money, and recruits.

Chris Petersen already turned down USC once, and UCLA, so again I'm not really sure what they were expecting.

James Franklin would be about as good as USC could have reasonably expected.

This is why Florida is keeping Muschamp and Nebraska is keeping Pelini.
That is not true, the job was offered to one person last time.


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Also why USC should keep Coach O at head coach. The next 2 years are going to be brutal in terms of scholarship players on this Trojan squad. Recruit the hell out of the local recruits in the that time and when a big fish coach comes swimming snag him up.
That's crazy. Franklin has won at Vanderbilt. He can certainly win at USC. There's no reason why you should simply tread water for the time being and set the program back even more.
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what makes USC such a draw?
Access to recruits, tradition, money.

It's still a top-10 coaching job. But it's rare that a coaching search ends with getting a guy that's already well-established as a winner at a big program. Those guys don't leave their jobs all that often.
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That's crazy. Franklin has won at Vanderbilt. He can certainly win at USC. There's no reason why you should simply tread water for the time being and set the program back even more.
He is right in the sense that the depth the next two years will likely be the worst that we have seen at USC unless we can get literally every draft eligible player to stay. Coach O has to at least be on the staff in some capacity for that to happen. However I think Franklin would be given the opportunity to build the team and get it back to 85 before they were to give him the ax.
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He is right in the sense that the depth the next two years will likely be the worst that we have seen at USC unless we can get literally every draft eligible player to stay. Coach O has to at least be on the staff in some capacity for that to happen. However I think Franklin would be given the opportunity to build the team and get it back to 85 before they were to give him the ax.
That's fine, but the odds that you'll get a big-name coach the second time around are still really low.

Look at the last few USC hires. A washed-up head coach and a guy who failed with the Raiders and was .500 at Tennessee.

Like I said, there are only so many big name guys out there, and they very rarely leave their jobs.
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Traditional power, great facilities, great fan base, great location, great education, beautiful women, great weather.
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Yeah the fanbase of alums are great, but outside of that and the USC fans that watched through the 90's and sanctions=Bandwagon fair weather fans.


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Yeah the fanbase of alums are great, but outside of that and the USC fans that watched through the 90's and sanctions=Bandwagon fair weather fans.


BTW: @ClayTravisBGID: I'm told that as of this morning James Franklin and his reps had not spoken to USC.
Vandy's insider from 247 just posted on our page saying he is hearing some different things so thats interesting.
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Cowherd just tweeted Sark to USC. Not sure if that is what he thinks it should be, a prediction, or actual breaking news though.
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Cowherd just tweeted Sark to USC. Not sure if that is what he thinks it should be, a prediction, or actual breaking news though.
Its starting to be announced by a lot of places, and a team meeting has been scheduled at UW today.

God damn it. Mixed emotions thats for sure.
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@Heismanpundit: So USC fired the worst coach in the Pac-12 so it could hire the second-worst?

@Heismanpundit: Sarkisian apparently fits only requirement for USC job. He knows the Fight Song and is friends with boosters.

@Heismanpundit: There is only one coach in the Pac-12 who has never won 9 games or more in a season in his career. And USC is apparently going to hire him.
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Sark to USC it is. My stomach hurts :(

Also be reported Kevin Sumlin lobbied hard for USC job and James Franklin was never interviewed.


Pat ****** Haden folks

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...usc-head-coach

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