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Old 04-24-2009, 12:11 PM    (permalink
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I totally agree on Pettigrew he is such a stud. And when you watch him catching it is effortless he really plucks the ball with his hands he is easily mt most wanted prospect for our first
If we trade back i could see us targetting Barwin and other rush backers, Sean Smith, Robiskie or other wrs,
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Well seeing as its about the half way mark of the year and im bored i wanted to do a ravens mock guessing we pick around 20

1) Joe Haden | CB | Florida
-He is an absolute beast, reminds me physically of Percy harvin in the fact he is alot stronger and tougher then you would expect. He is gonna put up some great combine numbers and it shows on the field. He can be physical and is a great open field tackler. Has the speed and hips to cover and is of great value.

2) Mardy Gilyard | WR | Cincinnati
-Extremely underrated prospect with great production. He knows how to get open and is extremely quick out of his breaks. Knows how to work the sideline and the middle of the field and is a great screen player. is the type of guy who you just want with the ball in his hands, reminds me of Ochocinco talent wise. Depending on Jrs who come out could have better WR available in 2nd but i think Gilyard is good value

3) Brandon Lang | DE/OLB | Troy
-When i see Dwan Edwards lining up at DE on a sure fire pass play it does not make me happy. Our pass rush specialists havent developed quite as well as expected ala Antwan Barnes. While we are loaded at the LB position you can never have enough pass rushers.

4) Vince Oghobasse | DT | Duke
-This is a crazy deep DT class we need to take advantage of that. Ogho can get up field and disrupt plays while Ngata or Mckinney are more stout at the point. We dont have a true penetrating DT and I expect us to address that in the draft.

5) Riley Cooper | WR | Florida
- Clutch player and has great size. Draft position will depend on his 40 time as he could go much higher. Great intangibles and has a winning atitude, we will be needing some recievers come next year depending who comes back.

6) Vladimir Ducasse | OL | U Mass
- Guy with great size and has played nearly every OL position. Great competitor and is athletic for his size. has only lived in US since 2002 so football is relatively new to him, has great potential and has started all games since a true frosh. Love his potential, size, competitive nature and versatility could become a future starter.

7) Jimmy Graham | TE | Miami (Fl.)
- Extremely raw but has great tools to work with being 6'8, 260 and athletic. A player who you would want Cam cameron to bring along. Has had a couple big grabs this year for the Hurricanes and someone will take a shot on his potential, we need depth at TE and i dont see LJ coming back next year. May go earlier.

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If you check out the Ravens Off Topic, you can see how Ive been running the Ravens in the forum mock. I like what you have done there, but with this years weak CB class, I dont see Haden being available with out pick, especially if we are in the late teens or early twenties.

I like Gilyard as well, but if we are going 2nd round WR, Id love to see Eric Decker as a Raven.
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As great as Decker is he is not worth a 2nd round pick and there is no way he is a better prospect then Gilyard. He has an injury and will more then likely be a 3rd rounder, i think he is a great player but at best he is worth an early third imo
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As great as Decker is he is not worth a 2nd round pick and there is no way he is a better prospect then Gilyard. He has an injury and will more then likely be a 3rd rounder, i think he is a great player but at best he is worth an early third imo
I cant see any scenario where Decker lasts till the 3rd. Even with a slow 40, I think he goes late 2nd at latest. The guy is a talent, he catches everything thrown his way. I think hes a perfect option for the Ravens and Id be happy to have him.
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I like it but at this point I see Gilyard as a 1st round pick. Alot can change though. I love Haden and I'm a big fan of Lang as well.
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For some reason the more I think about it I just have a hunch the Ravens will land Golden Tate in the first round. He just seems like the type of player who Ozzy would like. Biletnikoff winner, hard worker, and very personable. I know many people are down on him because he lacks elite speed and size(also because everyone thinks Michael Floyd is the next great thing even though I don't see it yet), but Golden Tate is just a ballplayer. He is like a running back with the ball in his hands.You can throw a quick out and he will get you a first down if not more. He's a bull to take down. Also he was probably the most impressive player in the college game this year at attacking the ball. Despite his size if there was a jump ball with his basketball background and freakishly strong hands he always came down with it. IMO Ozzy will like him because he's probably the most NFL impact ready player where as with Rejus Benn is a work in progress like DHB although physically his upside is huge. Still though you can't teach the physical nature and ball skills that Tate has. I'm sure Zbi will throw in a good word for him.
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I love Golden Tate. Id love to see him as a Raven.
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Agreed. I wouldn't mind if we got him in the first. APS brought up Kindle in the first, and I wouldn't mind that either. Yall might be down on him because the low sack numbers, but teams game-planned for him all season, and his pressures were still incredibly high, 36 to be exact. When he came on a blitz out of the two point stance, QBs might not know it was coming so they'd hold on to it a little longer or they'd have a longer drop, 5 or 7 step. This year with him at DE, most QBs either did 3 step drops, screens, or quick passes out of the shotgun, which limited his opportunity to get sacks facing double teams, but the other players benefited greatly. Texas still had 41 sacks on the year. I think Kindle would be perfect in our system.
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Myself and TACKLE just ran the Ravens in the forum mock, and here is what we accomplished:

ADDITIONS:

TE Jermaine Gresham (Round 1)
WR Demaryius Thomas (Round 2)
CB Antonio Cromartie (via trade)

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S Dawan Landry

I dont think I could imagine a more perfect draft. Gresham is something special, and a young QBs best friend is a dynamic TE. Also, Thomas needs work on his route running, but hes big, physical, and catches everything thrown at him. Cromartie has regressed since his rookie year, but with some proper technique coaching from someone like Harbaugh, he could develop into a top flight CB. I absolutely love what we did.
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I would like that very much. Cromartie physically fits the bill of what we need in the secondary, and the loss of Dawan Landry really isn't too bad. I'd still like to see what Zbikowski can do against halfway decent teams, but I think he'd be alright as a full-time starter. Gresham is always a good pick for the Ravens (assuming he still is valued as a first round pick) and Thomas is another big target for Flacco. I would love to see the Ravens build their receiving corp like the Chargers, and this is a step in the right direction.
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Just a thought but what if we packaged our 2nd Rd pick and Troy Smith to the Cardinals for Boldin? or to Denver for Marshall? Both clubs could use the QB and the pick and we could really use the WR. With Warner only having another year or 2 left and Orton the great QB that nobody wants Troy Smith is a perfect fit in the mold of former Raven and Cardinal Jeff Blake
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Just a thought but what if we packaged our 2nd Rd pick and Troy Smith to the Cardinals for Boldin? or to Denver for Marshall? Both clubs could use the QB and the pick and we could really use the WR. With Warner only having another year or 2 left and Orton the great QB that nobody wants Troy Smith is a perfect fit in the mold of former Raven and Cardinal Jeff Blake
I think Arizona would much rather roll with Matt Leinart than Troy Smith. I could see Denver considering Troy, but in the end, I see them retaining Orton, or upgrading at that position. Troy Smith doesn't have much trade value at all, he's just one of those players you could throw into a trade to sweeten the deal.
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PREDICTION

1ST - Golden Tate WR
2ND - Trevard Lindley CB
3RD - Cameron Heyward DE
4TH - Jimmy Graham TE
5TH - Chris McGaha WR
6TH - Demarcus Granger DT
7TH - Eric Olsen C

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Jimmy Graham is too much of a project for me. While I get he's enormous, athletic, and probably has a sick vertical leap, I just wasn't impressed by his prospects of a pro player. His hands are questionable and he just seems so stiff and unfluid much like his basketball style.
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agreed he's a project, but thats because he was also a basketball player. With proper coaching, Jimmy Graham can be an amazing tightend. He's a fast learner, solid blocker, and has amazing potential as a receiver. A 6'8 basketball player in the redzone would bring Baltimore's red zone offense up for sure!
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Just wanted to toss out something I saw:

A team source tells the Baltimore Sun that BAL Ravens would prefer 2 add a #1 WR in the #draft as opposed to free agency or via trade.
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A team source tells the Baltimore Sun that BAL Ravens would prefer 2 add a #1 WR in the #draft as opposed to free agency or via trade.
That's not surprising at all. With Ozzie drafting at the helm and the restrictions on FA's for us this off-season the draft looks like it's the easiest/best choice to go.
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As it would be much better to build from within via the draft then trade away potential picks or dollars to get someone like Marshall or Boldin.

But we also need to look at our window of success. How much longer are we going to have the Vets we have that can help be a Top Tier team ie. Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Matt Birk, Trevor Pryce, Derrick Mason, Todd Heap, etc.

I would lose a 2nd rd pick and a player to get Marshall or Boldin maybe even wait in the draft to see who drops to us and if someone doesn't fall trade away our 1st rd pick to get a Marshall or Boldin.
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Interesting considering the only WR considered a #1 is Dez Bryant and he won't last very long.....
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Big Dawg I hate to say it but I agree 100% I don't see Golden Tate or Mardy Gilyard as legit #1 WR's.

If you don't get Dez Bryant your odds are you are getting a great 2nd WR prospect
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Brandon Lafell could be a #1 receiver with some good coaching..
But imagine getting 2 receivers with the 1st two draft picks!?
Golden Tate in the first
Demaryius Thomas in the second
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Problem is though we need an impact WR not a project we don't have that kind of time, I mean of course we will always continue to coach and improve our players. Though when you look at our needs we need a WR that can come in and make an impact, which is why I think we will trade and get a proven commodity in a Marshall or Boldin or Steve Smith and draft a defensive player in the 1st either a CB or a DE.
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Brandon Lafell could be a #1 receiver with some good coaching..
But imagine getting 2 receivers with the 1st two draft picks!?
Golden Tate in the first
Demaryius Thomas in the second
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Hasn't that been the philosophy all along with draft picks at WR:

Mark Clayton
Demetrius Williams
Travis Taylor
Marcus Smith
etc
etc
etc

WR is an issue with this team, everyone in the city of Baltimore has known this for ages with the exception of Ozzie it seems. Bottomline to me the most important thing for this team is not exactly at any position, but the following:

1. Find a true "identity" for this team.

Are going to be a smash mouth running team, an aerial assault team, a defensive team, etc etc etc.... This every game speaks for itself nonsense that Harbaugh spews is a great for the media, but doesn't hold water in terms of football as evidence of the poor play down the stretch despite making it to the playoffs.

2. Build the team around that "Identity"

Joe Flacco showed me something in that Colt loss with his fire and passion on the sideline rants. He can put up the numbers in this league but is going to need weapons and time in the pocket. That is why we need to know what we are doing on offense, as opposed to this willy nilly style of game plan that Cam seems to draw up every week.


Kinda simple strategy but hey its not exactly rocket science.
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There have been rumblings that Marshall and Boldin may be able to be had for less then a first. I think if thats the case, its absolutely necessary for us to pursue those people. That said, if they do want a first, Id be more then happy to cough up a first for Marshall...hes still very young and has proven alot in a short amount of time. Id be more wary to trade for Boldin, but hes still a huge improvement over our current WRs.
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