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Akers- 33/40, 82.5%
Carney- 35/38, 92.1%
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I'll take a guy that can make a moderate distance field goal in the playoffs.
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03-03-2009, 10:58 PM
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my turn!
QB: Eli
RB: ****, gimme Portis, Westy and Jacobs please! I can't choose here. ****.
FB: Bushpenis
WR: Plaxico
WR: Santana
TE: Witten
LT: Samuels
LG: Davis
C: O'Hara
RG: Snee
RT: McKenzie
DEFENSE:
LDE: Tuck
DT: Robbins
DT: Bunkley
RDE: Osi
OLB: Boley
MLB: Fletcher
OLB: D-Ware
CB: Webster
CB: Brown
S: Landry
S: Phillips
K: Carney
P: Jeff Almighty Feagles.
fire away
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BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.
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03-04-2009, 07:18 AM
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RDE: Osi
OLB: Boley
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It's for 2008, scotty. As in this past year.
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03-04-2009, 01:13 PM
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my turn!
QB: Eli
RB: ****, gimme Portis, Westy and Jacobs please! I can't choose here. ****.
FB: Bushpenis
WR: Plaxico
WR: Santana
TE: Witten
LT: Samuels
LG: Davis
C: O'Hara
RG: Snee
RT: McKenzie
DEFENSE:
LDE: Tuck
DT: Robbins
DT: Bunkley
RDE: Osi
OLB: Boley
MLB: Fletcher
OLB: D-Ware
CB: Webster
CB: Brown
S: Landry
S: Phillips
K: Carney
P: Jeff Almighty Feagles.
fire away
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You'd take Samuels over Tra Thomas, and Osi over Cole? Kenny Phillips over Quintin Mikell = LOL
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03-04-2009, 03:22 PM
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Cole over Osi = Roflcopter
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03-04-2009, 06:56 PM
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Cole over Osi = Roflcopter
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Outside of 1 game in 2007 against arguably the NFL's worst backup, Osi had 7 sacks. That would mean he has 34.5 sacks since becoming a starter in 2004, 4 years, 58 games not including the Winston Justice game. Trent Cole has that many sacks in his career despite coming into the league in 2005 (63 games). So maybe, if an end's sole purpose was to get sacks, Osi would be better. But Cole has more negative plays (tackles for loss + sacks) in that time span. Cole is much better at defending the run, and he's nearly just as good at rushing the passer, and he's done all this despite not having guys like Tuck and Strahan around him.
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03-04-2009, 06:58 PM
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It's for 2008, scotty. As in this past year.
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I'll pick whatever damn year I want!!!
and like, eww. The NFC East has some weakass OLBs, weird.
and I'm taking a hurt Osi over anyone and you can't stop me
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BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.
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03-04-2009, 07:00 PM
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You'd take Samuels over Tra Thomas, and Osi over Cole? Kenny Phillips over Quintin Mikell = LOL
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tra thomas=old.
osi>>>cole.
Phillips went to "Da U".
I also put mine for the upcoming year, hence the Boley. Except Carney, he was too awesome last year to not put up.
you=fail.
good day sir.
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BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.
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03-04-2009, 07:15 PM
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tra thomas=old.
osi>>>cole.
Phillips went to "Da U".
I also put mine for the upcoming year, hence the Boley. Except Carney, he was too awesome last year to not put up.
you=fail.
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Tra Thomas still had a better year than Samuels.
Refer to above post for the Osi v Cole explanation
Jermome McDougle and William Joseph went to "Da U", doesn't make them good
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03-04-2009, 07:18 PM
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Tra Thomas still had a better year than Samuels.
Refer to above post for the Osi v Cole explanation
Jermome McDougle and William Joseph went to "Da U", doesn't make them good
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it's a wash, I really dont give a **** between the 2 of them. If you really need Tra up there to feel good, then be my guest, make it Tra in your mind. I really could just put Diehl and be awesome,
Osi is, and always will be, better than Cole. dont give me that ******** one game excuse. He tore Justice a new asshole, proceeded to then get doubled and help from backs and TE's. god, i'm sick of that ****** argument.
and but Phillips is actually good, add in the "U" factor, and that puts him ahead of Mikell. simple math really
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BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.
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03-04-2009, 07:27 PM
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it's a wash, I really dont give a **** between the 2 of them. If you really need Tra up there to feel good, then be my guest, make it Tra in your mind. I really could just put Diehl and be awesome,
Osi is, and always will be, better than Cole. dont give me that ******** one game excuse. He tore Justice a new asshole, proceeded to then get doubled and help from backs and TE's. god, i'm sick of that ****** argument.
and but Phillips is actually good, add in the "U" factor, and that puts him ahead of Mikell. simple math really
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What game were you watching? Reid left Justice all alone with Osi. Every analyst was pointing it out too, I know I wasn't the only one who said anything. And besides, Cole still makes more negative plays and tackles than Osi, despite not having guys like Tuck and Strahan around him. One could only fathom how Cole would do if he had those kinds of guys around him.
A lot of people thought McDougle was good too. Until I see it on the field, Mikell is better than Phillips.
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03-16-2009, 08:01 PM
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Outside of 1 game in 2007 against arguably the NFL's worst backup, Osi had 7 sacks. That would mean he has 34.5 sacks since becoming a starter in 2004, 4 years, 58 games not including the Winston Justice game. Trent Cole has that many sacks in his career despite coming into the league in 2005 (63 games). So maybe, if an end's sole purpose was to get sacks, Osi would be better. But Cole has more negative plays (tackles for loss + sacks) in that time span. Cole is much better at defending the run, and he's nearly just as good at rushing the passer, and he's done all this despite not having guys like Tuck and Strahan around him.
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You're out of your damn mind, Cole is a top ten DE in this league and a tremendous penetrator but saying he's better against the run is just not true. Osi's one of the only ends I've seen in this league who was able to not just get the best of Walter Jones in his prime as a pass rusher, but also manhandle him as a run stuffer, he's not tuck, but he's not much less effective than tuck against the run. And don't use the strong DL excuse for osi's play, those additional pass rushers hurt his numbers and cole has played with much better DTs throughout his career and has always had a better secondary, although we're closing the gap with Dawk moving on, webster coming into his own and Kenny P and Terrell Thomas looking like future studs.
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03-31-2009, 04:50 PM
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Stats do not tell the story. end of story.
2008
QB: If Donovan had a decent #1 id put him here but his whining and biotching has gotten him the boot.
ELI MANNING NYG
RB: Id like to say westbrook but hes on the decline, Clinton Portis is the best all around back in our division WAS
RB2: Brandon Jacobs, he is working to be an all around back, he has had two 1,000+ yard seasons despite sharing carries and not playing full seasons. NYG
RB3(scatback):Westbrook/Felix Jones okay its between these two, westbrook should have it but Jones looks pretty nasty. Ill give it to Westbrook because he's produced already, and Jones is not really proven. PHI
FB: Madison Hedgecock (yes Bushpenis) as a all around but Deion Anderson is a better runner and recieving threat. NYG
WR1: Plaxico Burress he played all world in the superbowl run, he just had to ruin a back to back. NYG
WR2:Santanna Moss is amazing WAS
WR3: Desean JaXon is a twig PHI
TE: Jason Witten DAL
TE2: Chris Cooley WAS
LT:Chris Samuels WAS
LG:Leonard Davis DAL
C:Shaun Ohara NYG
RG: Chris Snee NYG
RT:McKenzie NYG
DE:Justin Tuck NYG
DE: Trent Cole PHI
DT: broderick Bunkley PHI
DT: Fred Robbins NYG
OLB (3-4): Demarcus Ware DAL
MLB: London Fletcher WAS
OLB: ?
CB: Corey Webster NYG
CB: (brown got messed up in playoffs) T-NEW DAL
S: LARON LANDRY WAS
S: Phillips (we didnt have a vet playing with him bc James butler doesnt count so no Mikell although he played very well, phillips was a monster tackler) NYG
K:Carney
P:Feagles
KR: Demps/Jackson
PR:Demps/Jackson
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