ravens defense vs titans defense

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

yea well thats why i said i wouldnt take fat al over him because hes younger and has the potential to be better

[giantsfan]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

oh i agree, Ngata is not on Haynesworth's level. but nobody is.

i think Ngata does similar things for Baltimore. And as a front 7 DT/UT/NT, the only player in the league id take over Ngata right now is Haynesworth.

I don't know how drunk I'd have to get to disagree with you on that one. Although the way Jenkins played this year I think he might be close, but not better.

[giantsfan]

Originally Posted by RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES

yea well thats why i said i wouldnt take fat al over him because hes younger and has the potential to be better

Sure, but we're talking about both of these defenses during the 2008-2009 season, not the 2011 ravens versus the 2009 titans.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Originally Posted by giantsfan

I don't know how drunk I'd have to get to disagree with you on that one. Although the way Jenkins played this year I think he might be close, but not better.

i think theres DT out there who are as good as him right now but to have a 24yr old DT who is nasty and eats double teams for breakfast like him is rare and you can only imagine how good he will be in 5yrs. and it helps to have rex ryan and the rest of the ravens def helping you look good. or should i say it helps rex ryan and the rest of the ravens def to look good having ngata??

[PACKmanN]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

oh i agree, Ngata is not on Haynesworth's level. but nobody is.

i think Ngata does similar things for Baltimore. And as a front 7 DT/UT/NT, the only player in the league id take over Ngata right now is Haynesworth.

over Aso???

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Originally Posted by giantsfan

Sure, but we're talking about both of these defenses during the 2008-2009 season, not the 2011 ravens versus the 2009 titans.

good point.

[giantsfan]

Originally Posted by PACKmanN

over Aso???

Aso would struggle at DT and NT. He probably could be a beastly UT just because he's aso, but I still wouldn't take him for that role over Ngata. ;)

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Originally Posted by PACKmanN

over Aso???

i think he meant dt

[Bruce Banner]

Originally Posted by PACKmanN

over Aso???

eh, the d-linemen create for the corners is the logic I would employ.

[skinzzfan25]

Pryce gets a lot of penetration mainly because Ngata takes up 2-3 linemen constantly. I don't think you can accurately compare both Ngata and Haynesworth because they're both asked to do different things based on the schemes they play in.

When healthy, Pryce defiantly does reap the benefits of having a rock right next to him. Ngata doesn't let linemen get to the second level and lets his LBers make the play on the backs. He's everything I want in my NT.

The overall explosiveness of the Ravens defense is just nasty. They play motivated.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

thats probably the difference in the 2 is the risks the ravens take and the intensity they bring to every game.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by PACKmanN

over Aso???

i was talking DTs.

but if you want to discuss the 2 and compare them, id still take Haynesworth over Aso.

its the horses up front who win you championships.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

i was talking DTs.

but if you want to discuss the 2 and compare them, id still take Haynesworth over Aso.

its the horses up front who win you championships.

as you can see with teams like the packers who have real good DBs but there front 7 isnt all that so they give up alot of runs. you have to stop the run to stop the pass. no run no play action lol

[Malaka]

I like Baltimore's big play ability on defense, so I'll take them over the Titans but they are both in the top 3 in defenses.

1. Steelers
2. Ravens
3. Titans
(Thats my honest opinion, and it is quite interchangeable)

[CashmoneyDrew]

I keep seeing people say they'll take the Ravens "Big Play" ability over the Titans. The Titans can make plays too now people. We're talking about a secondary with Chris Hope, Cortland Finnegan, and Michael Griffin. Our LB's can make plays in the passing game and blitzing when need be as well. The defensive line is so deep and gets such great pass rush without extra blitzers as well. I love love love the Ravens defense and how they play but the Titans can make some plays too.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

yea the titans obviously make plays there a top defense in the game lol but the ravens ability to make plays is on another level IMO because thats what we thrive on. I mean to bad everyone cant have a ed reed

[CashmoneyDrew]

From NFL.com.....

Titans defense: 44 sacks, 23 forced fumbles, 20 INT's
Ravens defense: 34 sacks, 13 forced fumbles, 26 INT's

So the Titans defense makes a ton of plays as well.

[OzTitan]

Sometimes I think "A D thriving on making plays" = "A D making a big deal out of sacks and turnovers". A turnover and a sack is always the same no matter the D, but some D's seem to celebrate and draw (or spend) more energy as a result. I think the Ravens are like this. I think the better summary is an "emotional" D.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

yea when we get a interception we dont go to the sideline like ok the offense better score we did our job. we go to the sideline and are ready to come back on thinking lets get another pick. and the more big plays we get the better our def is going to play. theres nothing scarier than a very good def with confidence.(Ravens,Steelers,Titans)

[TitanHope]

Oh yeah! Well...I bet my defense can beat up your defense! ;)

Our DL is what I love most about the Titans DEF. It has the top end talent, yet the depth to allow backups to rotate in and there not being any significant dropoff in play. It really is our bread and butter. Of the 44 sacks the Titans have tallied this season, 40 of them were made by the DL. To show what kind of depth the DL has, the Titans starters Al Haynesworth, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Jevon Kearse, and Tony Brown only accounted for 20 of the DL's 40 sacks. That means that the backups contributed 50% of the DL's sacks this season. Gotta love it!

As for comparing the two defenses...it's tough. For starters, the Titans run a 4-3 and the Ravens run a 3-4. The Titans's DEF is bend but don't break, and the Ravens DEF is blitz heavy. The Titans will give up the yardage but not the points, and the Ravens will give up the points but not the yardage. So it's hard to look at the numbers and say one is better.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Just think how many sacks we'd have if Schwartz would send a blitz once in a blue moon! Yipes!

[TitanHope]

Lol, don't hate on the ever epic CB Blitz!!!

When your secondary has 3x the amount of sacks as your LB's do, you know something's up...:(

[SenorGato]

Originally Posted by VoodooMonkey

From NFL.com.....

Titans defense: 44 sacks, 23 forced fumbles, 20 INT's
Ravens defense: 34 sacks, 13 forced fumbles, 26 INT's

So the Titans defense makes a ton of plays as well.

I bow to those numbers.

2008 winners are the Titans.

Good game coming up then. Little bit of one.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm surprised the voting isn't a little bit closer to be honest.

[giantsfan]

Originally Posted by VoodooMonkey

I'm surprised the voting isn't a little bit closer to be honest.

Me to, although the ravens have had a rep for an elite d for longer and have more recognizable talent so it's not surprising. I understand completely why people like the ravens, I normally prefer aggressive defenses that attack and confuse, but the titans have just been executing unbelievably well this season which is why I like them more this season.