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Old 10-12-2009, 01:56 PM    (permalink
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conversation isnt hard for me, but I hate when people have nothing to bring to a conversation. like, gebus, do some chicks have zero interests at all?
yes.

but some guys do too, if you don't count boobs and beer.
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If you can't carry on a conversation with someone, they're not worth having around on any real level. Friends, family, significant others, mentors, students, associates, etc. Communication is paramount.
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Talking to a girl for me is a lot like writing an essay. I struggle with the introduction, but once I get past that I know how to work the body. Then the conclusion is usually short and sweet. And I take my "B" and am happy.
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conversation isnt hard for me, but I hate when people have nothing to bring to a conversation. like, gebus, do some chicks have zero interests at all?
This. Some women just seem so uninterested it turns me off.
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Is it wrong for me to think I can't be attractive to a girl because I have a gap in my teeth? It's something that really ******* bothers me, as much as I love looking like Chris Pronger.
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Is it wrong for me to think I can't be attractive to a girl because I have a gap in my teeth? It's something that really ******* bothers me, as much as I love looking like Chris Pronger.
A gap in your teeth can be fairly easily fixed. Why don't you get it corrected if it really bothers you?
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A gap in your teeth can be fairly easily fixed. Why don't you get it corrected if it really bothers you?
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yes.

but some guys do too, if you don't count boobs and beer.
To be fair, those are 3 very good interests.
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you gotta crash and burn a couple of times before you get comfortable. it comes with the territory. live and learn.

for you youngins, chances are the first couple of times you give it a shot youll look like a fool, and probably sound like a fool.

remember, she probably feels dumb too. unless shes the bees knees, shes probably feeling awkward too. just go for it, and whatever you screw up, you won't screw up the next time.

baptism by fire boys and girls. its the best way to learn.

every guy has to learn rejection. its gonna happen. you gotta deal with it and move on.
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The best advice i ever got about hitting on random strangers, is that you probably aren't gonna succeed, so go in there expecting to get rejected. It makes sense, they're good looking women, guys hit on them all the time, right? Once you lose that feeling of insecurity, you'll already have a leg up on everyone.

Next big tip, talk to every single girl you find attractive. You'll eventually get a phone number or a girl that's interested in what you have to say.
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It is definitely a number's game. You are going to probably get rejected more than 60% of the time. Girls have bf's, don't like you, feel awkward, etc. Just get out there, open up your game, and go. Don't wimp out. If you get rejected, don't be a jerk about it. That's a karma thing. I never really take it too personally when I get rejected because it's part of the game. If you don't get smacked down, you never learn anything!
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Just walk up to girls in the supermarket and ask where the ______ is, then completely confess to how dorky a line you just used. It's endearing and will easily score you a number, plus if you mess up it's not like you can't try again. I'm really embarrassed by how often this used to work for me.
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There is no set line that works. If you use a line or a move, it will look stupid. Just be yourself. If you feel like you have to be self deprecating, go for it. It can be disarming for some women, but it could be seen as weak and lacking in self confidence. You just have to get comfortable putting yourself out there, and the ladies will eventually come along. Break out of your shell and your comfort zone. Only way to improve these things.
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Yes. It is. Go see a shrink. You have low self esteem.
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Yes. It is. Go see a shrink. You have low self esteem.
Unless you're being sarcastic, I don't see how a shrink or counselor would help that. The only time I'm confident is when I'm intoxicated, and I hate that.
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Unless you're being sarcastic, I don't see how a shrink or counselor would help that. The only time I'm confident is when I'm intoxicated, and I hate that.
If it's that big of an issue, make the proper sacrifices so you can invest in something that's gonna be that important to you. Unless it's just an insane amount of money, i'm sure you can figure out a way to finance the procedure to have it fixed.
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Unless you're being sarcastic, I don't see how a shrink or counselor would help that. The only time I'm confident is when I'm intoxicated, and I hate that.
I'm not being sarcastic. You sound like you have a self esteem issue.

Which is: I'm not worthy of attraction or love unless i look a certain way. Which is exactly what around 95% of the girls feel in America.

It probably isn't actually severe enough to require an actually shrink. but, a cognitive approach to reminding yourself the way you feel isn't actually the way things are is key.

if you can't do that. then you might want to see a shrink.

a shrink isn't there to make you feel better necessarily, they're there to reprocess the way you accept stimuli. which, at times, is harmful.
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I'm not being sarcastic. You sound like you have a self esteem issue.

Which is: I'm not worthy of attraction or love unless i look a certain way. Which is exactly what around 95% of the girls feel in America.
This.
The best way for you to get and keep a girl is that you make this feeling go away, even if for just a little while.
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Is it wrong for me to think I can't be attractive to a girl because I have a gap in my teeth? It's something that really ******* bothers me, as much as I love looking like Chris Pronger.
Everyone here has something about them that they either hate/used to hate about themselves. Chances are, they thought that this feature would drag them down somehow whether it is with the opposite sex or whether it is with another internal issue.

I'll admit it, I used to think that the same way with a feature or two, but you just learn to live with it.

Chances are man, even if you were to get that gap fixed, you would probably miss it after it was gone, because it is a part of you.

Sounds all cliche and everything, but you have to face it that it is true.
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WTF if it's something that's keeping him from feeling comfortable, how would he miss it after he gets it fixed? It's gonna help him in so many ways, not just in the relationship department, i don't understand that logic at all.
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