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Old 01-22-2009, 04:11 PM    (permalink
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It should be the Rams instead.
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It should be the Rams instead.
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As a Packer fan, I'd be very against the Vikings moving to LA, and it has nothing to do with logistics. Our division is classic right now. The teams belong in Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit and Minnesota. All 4 teams are married to their respective cities and it should stay that way.

That said, really, the state obviously doesn't support them. The Twins had no trouble getting a new stadium.

And, I do know some obnoxious Viking fans that I'd like to see get taken down a peg. It'd be hillarious if Packer games were broadcast in the cities as the 'home team'
YES YES YES YES. The Twins had a LOT of trouble getting a stadium. The Twin Cities aren't a very sports condusive environment. The people here would rather spend their money on art museums and *** crap like that.
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YES YES YES YES. The Twins had a LOT of trouble getting a stadium. The Twin Cities aren't a very sports condusive environment. The people here would rather spend their money on art museums and *** crap like that.
Yeah, learning things is for pussies.

As for it not being a sports condusive environment, it's the smallest metro that has 4 sports teams, plus a major college, so there's that. Minnesotans are generally smart, they don't like giving their money away so a billion dollar stadium can be built and then used 8 times a year. It's a waste.
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Yeah, learning things is for pussies.

As for it not being a sports condusive environment, it's the smallest metro that has 4 sports teams, plus a major college, so there's that. Minnesotans are generally smart, they don't like giving their money away so a billion dollar stadium can be built and then used 8 times a year. It's a waste.
Actually the investment in a new stadium would lead to Final Fours/March Madness and a Super Bowl to the city. It would be used very similar to Ford Field. Just wanted to add that into the discussion.
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Actually the investment in a new stadium would lead to Final Fours/March Madness and a Super Bowl to the city. It would be used very similar to Ford Field. Just wanted to add that into the discussion.
And probably Bruce Springsteen concerts.
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That doesnt really sound like a location that would be good for a sporting event in February.
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That doesnt really sound like a location that would be good for a sporting event in February.
You mean the numerous Final Four and NCAA Tournament games in Minneapolis at the Metrodome never happened?
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The Wilfs have stated they can provide $250M for their ~$1B stadium plan on the Metrodome site.

That's a pretty good number but they will probably have to up it to about $400M to get it passed through the legislature.

If the organization wasn't so poorly run, they'd have more fan support. However, every single time the Vikings appear to be for real they tend to choke.

I'd say it's about 60-40 with the Vikings leaving after the lease in the Metrodome is up with the 40 percent being the chance that the Wilfs and other private funds upping their $250M.

This state can't afford $750M for a new stadium.
Do you know when their lease is up?
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Do you know when their lease is up?
The lease runs up 2011. The Wilfs are being greedy and want the state to buy a stadium while they rake in all the cash. They should either upgrade the dome or build a cheaper stadium. They want a retractable roof and to develop the area around the stadium with restaurants, shops, condos etc. I don't blame the state for laughing in their face, their demands are absurd and it would be a bad deal for Minnesota and the taxpayers.
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YES YES YES YES. The Twins had a LOT of trouble getting a stadium. The Twin Cities aren't a very sports condusive environment. The people here would rather spend their money on art museums and *** crap like that.
Yeah, it took the Twins, what, 10 years to get the money for a new stadium?
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Actually the investment in a new stadium would lead to Final Fours/March Madness and a Super Bowl to the city. It would be used very similar to Ford Field. Just wanted to add that into the discussion.
It has worked wonders for Detroit's economy.
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Why does california think it need thirty of pro teams per sport. Raiders and chargers, pick one and root for them.
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That doesnt really sound like a location that would be good for a sporting event in February.
You mean the numerous Final Four and NCAA Tournament games in Minneapolis at the Metrodome never happened?
I didnt realize that the NCAA tournament is in February.
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The Superbowl was actually in Minneapolis too.
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February is about as cold as March in Minnesota. It doesn't start warming up until April here.
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I personally don't think LA deserves another chance at a team. But from a business perspective, I completely understand the move.

If I had my choice, id probably want Jacksonville to move there.
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Are the Minnesota Vikings the only team with their state name apart of the team name? Everyone else seems to be associated with a city. If so, why is that?

I think if the Vikings moved, the name/colors would stick with the city/state... just like the Browns and Seattle Supersonics.
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Are the Minnesota Vikings the only team with their state name apart of the team name? Everyone else seems to be associated with a city. If so, why is that?
Carolina and Arizona.
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Carolina and Arizona.
Ah thanks... So why is that? I hate inconsistency.
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I personally don't think LA deserves another chance at a team. But from a business perspective, I completely understand the move.

If I had my choice, id probably want Jacksonville to move there.
The biggest reason the Rams and Raiders left LA had more to do with the city's refusal to build a new stadium. The Coliseum is an absolute piece of **** in the middle of the hood. The new stadium proposal nixes both of those issues in the bud as it's going to be a great facility and it's in a much, much better area. Sarf and I both live incredibly close to where it's supposed to be built. Win in LA and the fans will come.

And yes, bring the Jags to California PLEASEEEEE.
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