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Holt can still play. Problem is, he won't come cheap. St. Louis is just cleaning house completely right now. If you're old, you're out.
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if we could get him cheap, marvin harrison would be a huge upgrade over jabar 'big-time' gaffney. a 1 year 2.25 million contract like bodden seems right.

i agree that torry holt has much more in the tank and will probably command a pricey 3 yr deal like Randy Moss got, and so we have no chance.

Unlikely we get Boldin, would probably have to trade one of our 2nds and sign him to a huge deal that we dont have cap room for although I agree, it would be a dream come true...boldin and moss but it wouldn't last long anyway. boldin is a physical receiver who's game will suffer more to age and moss is already 34.
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Don't want any part in Harrison. He's washed up. The offense they have in Peyton Manning made him look a bit better the past few years.
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^ Exactly. If Marvin looked that bad with Peyton throwing him the ball you know he's done.

Even if Holt has something left I would rather see a WR drafted to add some youth at the position. Any WR brought in is only going to get ~40 passes with Moss & Welker in the mix anyway, which would be a great scenario for a rookie.
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That's not to say Tom Brady wouldn't make him look similarly good....just not worth it. We could get the same production for a lot cheaper. We need to get younger at the position anyway.

If we had our choice of anyone in the draft, I think Maclin would be perfect for us, but obviously we don't...so I'm really interested in Kenny Britt. With the KC second rounder, gives us a LOT of flexibility. I would be tempted to take him at the top of the second round if he were there. Britt probably has the best size/speed combination out of anyone in the draft and is a damn fine receiver to go along with all that.
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We resigned M.Wright to a four yr deal and
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i like the galloway signing but idk what the pats are now going to do in the draft.... they keep signing these veterans to play important positions (CB, WR) when we also need some young talent, esp at WR imo. CB we have wilhite and wheatley, but we do not have a really good young WR.
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Hope it doesn't do anything to change anything. All this age kinda scares me.
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This is a big time future draft. I don't think New England will allow some short-term deals get in the way of replenishing talent at key positions. Maybe something like this (I like to call it Pac-10 day):

1. ILB Rey Maualuga, Southern California
2. OLB Clay Matthews, Southern California
2. CB Jairus Byrd, Oregon
2. OG Andy Levitre, Oregon State
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That would be a nice draft. Still, I just think too many veterans with expectations is never a good thing. I'm sure the team will be fine but a lot of teams have blown up once they started bringing in older guys for whatever reason.
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i like the galloway signing but idk what the pats are now going to do in the draft.... they keep signing these veterans to play important positions (CB, WR) when we also need some young talent, esp at WR imo. CB we have wilhite and wheatley, but we do not have a really good young WR.
The moves the Pats have made are great. It will allow them to go boom/bust the whole draft. It's going to be exciting.
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I like the moves so far. I don't think it affects that draft that much b/c many of these guys are older and can only be seen as stop gaps.

Between age, current talent and contracts there are many positions of need. It seems like all the Pats fans here agree we must get a pass rusher (OLB) and a Safety immediately. On offense it is WR, TE, G, T and RB. On D it is ILB, DT, DE and CB.

Obviously Wilfork & Mankins really need to be extended, which would eliminate DT as a need. But there are still plenty of spots to fill long term and a few current needs. The moves made so far in FA give NE the chance to really move around and target guys they really like at several positions.
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Well, the Wright re-signing really did affect the draft. That's the only one though.
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Yeah, it's hard to draft guys where there is almost no room in the inn available.

Have 5 CBs including wheatley and wilhite, 6 if you count Richardson.
Guess they could go safety for sure and LB of course. lineman too. Although I wouldn't draft levitre in the 2nd round. He seems like just another guy to me, not really athletic. Maybe Eric Wood in the 3rd/4th.

Maluga seems to have some red flags. I thought I read somewhere that they liked Michael Johnson and Clay Matthews, but I can't seem to find that anywhere anymore. Johnson doesn't seem like their type. Matthews does but may be too small to play ILB.

I think I read they like Ayers too. He could play 3-4 OLB and actually hold the point. which is important.

So I would give them...

Gilbert (yes 1st round, athletic guys who are 6-6 290 are tought to find)

Ayers (cause he can hold the point and play 3-4 OLB)

Delmas (cause they talked to him a bunch, other possibilities Chung and Moore and Byrd who could play safety or chip Vaughn or Rashad Johnson later)

A guard center like Luigs woods or Caldwell would be good as Koppen isn't really that good and they need a backup eventual replacement for mankins/Neal. Mankins may want too much money.

A ILB like Jaspar Brinkley in the 3rd.

A RB would be good as Maroney could be then cut. A WR except there's no room really. Maybe Dillard in the 5th as he seems pretty intelligent. Of course he may not last that long.
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It will probably be Pettigrew then all O & D line and LBs.
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I hope not
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Matthews would not play inside for us. That's taking away from one of his strengths. He's at 240+ right now and could easily get up to 250 and play OLB without a problem. I'm starting to come around on him in a major way. Tested better than any of his competition at the end of first 3-4 OLB bracket and it never hurts to have a guy who plays that hard around either.
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Pats and Panthers are trying to get a deal done between March 22nd and the Draft that would send the Pats' 34th pick to the Panthers for J. Peppers.
It also says that BB loves the idea of teaming up Rey Maualuga with Mayo in the middle with the 23rd pick.
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Matthews is a player I would be happy with, and he could be a steal if he slides to the mid 2nd pick. I have heard a few talking heads call him under-rated or overshadowed b/c of the other USC LBs.
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He really is. Pete Carroll is on the record saying that he thinks that if he had played Matthews, USC wouldn't have lost to Oregon State.

As far as Peppers for the 34th pick....Here we go again I guess? Have to wonder how reliable that service is though.
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Matthews would not play inside for us. That's taking away from one of his strengths. He's at 240+ right now and could easily get up to 250 and play OLB without a problem. I'm starting to come around on him in a major way. Tested better than any of his competition at the end of first 3-4 OLB bracket and it never hurts to have a guy who plays that hard around either.
I think Matthews could become a very good 3-4 ILB, but I agree that's not where he should play for the Pats (at least, not right away). They have plenty of guys that can play inside.
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damn mayo maulaluga peppers and adalius thomas would be insanely nasty haha with crable, redd, and guyton developing behind them
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The potential Peppers trade is now being run on every outlet. sigh.

If it's pick #34 and little else it's ok, but man Pepp will be expensive.

Either way I think the Cassel deal was executed awfully quick since no true 'big-time' FA deal has been done.
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