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Jason Jones of the Sacramento Bee reports that the Raiders are "likely" to release safety Michael Huff this offseason. In his article, Jones states that Huff anticipates this move.

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The 2006 draft was the year of Michael Huff, Jason Allen and Tye Hill in the draft. Donte Whitner also came out of that draft. However most of these defensive backs turned out poorly.

#7 Michael Huff
#8 Donte Whitner
#16 Jason Allen
#19 Antonio Cromartie
#24 Johnathan Joseph
#31 Kelly Jennings

Huff and Allen seem to be failed experiments. Everyone jumped on Cromartie like a predictable route last year, but he showed that he has a LONG ways to go in learning how to actually cover a guy after the 2008 season. I haven't really heard much from either Joseph or Jennings. My understanding was that Jennings isn't a total bust but that he certainly hasn't been great. Joseph dealt with injury issues all year this past year.
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Jason Allen was such a stud in college. Sucks that the he hasn't worked out in the pros as much as I thought he would.
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Michael Huff can come play in Dallas.
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No Huff come across the bay.
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Whitner has been solid but unspectacular. He is only 23 and actually our team leader on defense. He needs to make more big plays but alot of that stems from our lack of pass rush and injuries in the secondary.
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Yeah, Whitner was the one guy who I didn't mention in the analysis for a reason. You would think of 6 1st rounders, at least one would be at least a very good player after the 3rd year...

Cromartie fails at covering because he's always trying for the big play.
Whitner is solid because he never makes the big play.
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So what's the problem with Huff Daddy? I can't say i've watched a Raiders game in a while..
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So what's the problem with Huff Daddy? I can't say i've watched a Raiders game in a while..
He's a Texas safety who's name isn't Michael Griffin! :D
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So what's the problem with Huff Daddy? I can't say i've watched a Raiders game in a while..
The same thing that's wrong with Stuart Schwiegert.

1. He's not Jack Tatum
2. He's not George Atkinson
3. He plays in a cover-0 that consistently puts him in a position to be the only guy between a RB with a full head of steam and the open field.

This past season, he really didn't get a whole lot of time on the field apart from special teams. He is pretty much in the doghouse.
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i loved huff coming out of college. havent seen many raiders game, but im sure id love to have him on the patriots
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List of fans that want Huff:

Dallas
Chicago
New England
San Francisco
New York Jets

List of fans that don't:
Most Raider fans
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Most Raider fans
When a former first rounder is cut for being a bust everyone thinks that their team can bring him in and he'll play up to his potential.
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Fixed. Anyone with any kind of potential gets clamored for here and most other places. Everyone loves the low risk/high reward, but it always gets like that.
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Cromartie was atrocious in 2008, but it's tough to give him the "always going for a big play" knock; most of the time he was just trailing because QBs had ten seconds to sit in the pocket. He also fractured his hip in week 2.

Whitner is a beast, Huff played for the Raiders, I like JJ, and haven't seen quite enough of jennings or allen to make a real call. All of them are young and terrific athletes though, tough to close the book.
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Marc Colombo was a former first rounder who was brought in for his ability in a low risk high reward scenario. We just signed him to a big money extension.
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The 2006 draft was the year of Michael Huff, Jason Allen and Tye Hill in the draft. Donte Whitner also came out of that draft. However most of these defensive backs turned out poorly.

#7 Michael Huff
#8 Donte Whitner
#16 Jason Allen
#19 Antonio Cromartie
#24 Johnathan Joseph
#31 Kelly Jennings

Huff and Allen seem to be failed experiments. Everyone jumped on Cromartie like a predictable route last year, but he showed that he has a LONG ways to go in learning how to actually cover a guy after the 2008 season. I haven't really heard much from either Joseph or Jennings. My understanding was that Jennings isn't a total bust but that he certainly hasn't been great. Joseph dealt with injury issues all year this past year.
For someone who wasn't expected to go as high, Whitner has had a solid season.
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Does any one remember the guy that came to the forum before the 2006 draft that would say that Jason Allen was sooooo awesome? Any time someone mentioned something bad about Allen, he would dispute it and argue about it.
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The Niners already brought in Jimmy Williams though so I don't see it happening.
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Jonathan Joseph is really good he's just dealt with injuries a lot.
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Jonathan Joseph is really good he's just dealt with injuries a lot.
His hands are also subpar, though they have improved slightly. They were downright awful his rookie season.
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