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Old 02-10-2009, 01:23 PM    (permalink
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Which Players will actually hit the market?...and where will they go?
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I think Julius Peppers will. Could he go to Green Bay?
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I think Julius Peppers will. Could he go to Green Bay?
Two 4-3 DE's trying to convert to 3-4 OLB? Riskay.
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Two 4-3 DE's trying to convert to 3-4 OLB? Riskay.
Yeah, kind of forgot about Kampman. So where could he go? I'd love for Carolina to tag Peppers so the Eagles could get Jordan Gross.
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I think Julius Peppers will. Could he go to Green Bay?
Do they have the cap room?
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Is Vernon Carey going back to Miami? I think Bart is as good as gone as well.
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Do they have the cap room?
Yes, the Packers will be well under the cap. 25 mil +
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I think Peppers ends up in Denver. Cincy is my darkhorse to land him.
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Bart Scott is gone. Ravens cant resign him if they want Ray and Suggs. Also Jim Leonard is probably gone. I can see both of them going back to Rex Ryan at the Jets.
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I doubt that, especially if Favre comes back. The Jets have little cap room to sign them.
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I like the chances of Denver landing him....Nolans bringing in the 3-4 Right?
Yep.

Apparently Peppers also has some connection with Carmelo Anthony... so Denver may have more than just scheme working in its favor.
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I would rather use Moss and Dumervil at OLB then spending a large amount of their cap on Peppers. They still need a NT, DE, 2 ILB(Williams will fail in a 34).
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I don't know for sure Peppers walks to Free Agency without a fight, seems likely they tag him(they do have that right) and just trade him to highest bidder or force him to play...Everyone always assumes guys will be Free Agents but it wouldn't make much sense from Carolina's standpoint to just let him walk for free, same reason it wouldn't of made sense for the Pats to let Cassell get away for free.
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I don't know for sure Peppers walks to Free Agency without a fight, seems likely they tag him(they do have that right) and just trade him to highest bidder or force him to play...Everyone always assumes guys will be Free Agents but it wouldn't make much sense from Carolina's standpoint to just let him walk for free, same reason it wouldn't of made sense for the Pats to let Cassell get away for free.
Exactly, everyone is getting their hopes up for Nnamdi to hit the market but he is all the Raiders really have left for star power.
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Exactly, everyone is getting their hopes up for Nnamdi to hit the market but he is all the Raiders really have left for star power.
If the Raiders were smart, they would franchise him and put him up for trade and take the best offer. They can only franchise tag him for one more year and he hits the market for good, with absolutely nothing in return. What good is having the guy closest to being a shutdown CB in the NFL play for them for this upcoming year? A 1st and 3rd might have a better impact for the Raiders for this upcoming year and in the future. No way he resigns with the Raiders.

Maybe Oakland would be more likely to do it with the emergence of Chris Johnson. You never know what Oakland though.
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I don't know for sure Peppers walks to Free Agency without a fight, seems likely they tag him(they do have that right) and just trade him to highest bidder or force him to play...Everyone always assumes guys will be Free Agents but it wouldn't make much sense from Carolina's standpoint to just let him walk for free, same reason it wouldn't of made sense for the Pats to let Cassell get away for free.
But its going to be hard with the Gross situation. In a normal situation, thats what they would do (see cassel and the nnamdi situations). However, resigning Gross and franchising Peppers is hard to do with the cap (i think) and that is stopping the Panthers from keeping both players. They might just let him go, seeing that Gross was an integral part of that dominant dominant rushing attack that lead them to success.
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If the Raiders were smart, they would franchise him and put him up for trade and take the best offer. They can only franchise tag him for one more year and he hits the market for good, with absolutely nothing in return. What good is having the guy closest to being a shutdown CB in the NFL play for them for this upcoming year? A 1st and 3rd might have a better impact for the Raiders for this upcoming year and in the future. No way he resigns with the Raiders.

Maybe Oakland would be more likely to do it with the emergence of Chris Johnson. You never know what Oakland though.
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we have a huge amount of cap space. if not peppers, who should we spend the money on at NT/ILB this offseason? all of those amazing players who... oh yeah, aren't free agents? when you typed this post, are you sure you didn't mean to say:

"i don't think denver should sign him because i want him to come to my team so i should probably include some specious reasoning"?
I wonder what kind of value that Broncos could get for trading DJ Williams. Late 2nd-early 3rd?
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It will be interesting to see what happens with Nnamdi in Oakland. I'd love for us to sign him long term, but I understand why he wants to leave. I don't see us just letting him walk, so we will most likely tag him again.

The real question becomes, how much does a team (maybe New Orleans??) give up for a Pro-Bowl corner like Nnamdi?
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You can franchise tag a player as many years in a row as you want.
Really? I didn't know that.

Either way, I still think that is the best option for the Raiders.
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