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View Poll Results: Who do you choose? (read the first post before picking!)
Kyle Boller 26 20.31%
David Carr 25 19.53%
Rex Grossman 25 19.53%
Joey Harrington 11 8.59%
JP Losman 40 31.25%
Patrick Ramsey 1 0.78%
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:28 PM    (permalink
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68% of his passes for the 6th worst average per attempt. hooray, he could hit a running back out of the backfield less than 3/4 of the time.
Well what does that say about the rest of the league, that 5 guys playing quarterback were worse than David Carr, who played on the crappiest team in football all his career?

Just wondering as to how many Texans games you got to see while David Carr played?

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And then you look at his 2007 season with the Panthers...
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ha i mean Vinny Testaverde beat him out
And i'm sure his back injuries throughout the whole year had NOTHING to do with that.
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Well what does that say about the rest of the league, that 5 guys playing quarterback were worse than David Carr, who played on the crappiest team in football all his career?

Just wondering as to how many Texans games you got to see while David Carr played?

I like David Carr the person, but watching those games all you saw were screens to Domanick Davis or short slants to Andre Johnson.

Granted, Carr never had a #2 guy outside of the one year of the RB Formerly Known as Domanick Davis but he often looked like Bledsoe. Carr was/is a good athlete, but the man couldn't sense the pocket collapsing and it looked like his feet were made of stone.

The Texans OL was not good, don't get me wrong, but Carr was a bit too blame for the sack total. Then again, it was probably muscle memory of just getting sacked.
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:11 PM    (permalink
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I like David Carr the person, but watching those games all you saw were screens to Domanick Davis or short slants to Andre Johnson.

Granted, Carr never had a #2 guy outside of the one year of the RB Formerly Known as Domanick Davis but he often looked like Bledsoe. Carr was/is a good athlete, but the man couldn't sense the pocket collapsing and it looked like his feet were made of stone.

The Texans OL was not good, don't get me wrong, but Carr was a bit too blame for the sack total. Then again, it was probably muscle memory of just getting sacked.
Why do you think there was so many screens and short routes ran in Houston those days? Do you think the coaching staff was about to allow Carr to take a 5 or 7 step drop with that offensive line? Teams would blitz relentlessly against Houston, because no one could block for him. Like every quarterback, there were times he was to blame for sacks, but about 8/10ths of the sacks given up i'd put on the OL.
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Give me David Carr.

For three years he was steadily improving in Houston before they got rid of him. Everyone who watched knows the first few years of his Texans days were just putrid playing behind the worst offensive line in football. He completed close to 70% of his passes his last year there, and has always thrown a very nice deep ball.

Out of all the guys, he shined the most with the least supporting cast around him.
You forgot to mention how he played worse than Delhomme did versus the Cardinals once he landed in Carolina. Guy sucks, plain and simple. And he sucked before the back injury, so don't bring that up.
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Why do you think there was so many screens and short routes ran in Houston those days? Do you think the coaching staff was about to allow Carr to take a 5 or 7 step drop with that offensive line? Teams would blitz relentlessly against Houston, because no one could block for him. Like every quarterback, there were times he was to blame for sacks, but about 8/10ths of the sacks given up i'd put on the OL.

Offensive line looked slightly better with Sage Rosenfels in there....not calling him Messiah and yes, I'm completely aware sometimes backup QBs just have crazy luck but still....
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And i'm sure his back injuries throughout the whole year had NOTHING to do with that.
Stephen Hawking could have played better in 2007 than David Carr did.
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JP Losman was absolutely awful this season. Indescribably bad. His best throw all year was a bomb to Lee Evans that he underthrew about 20 yards. Lee is a beast so he caught it anyway.

Losman was benched for Gibran Hamdan towards the end of the year. Hamdan was named the starter if Trent Edwards wasn't back from injury. It was brutal watching Bills game with JP at the helm. Honestly it was worse than the Rob Johnson and Billy Joe Hobert days. Based on his play last season, I don't even think Losman could cut it in the CFL.
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