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Old 03-05-2009, 12:09 AM    (permalink
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fwiw, the cowboys have not confirmed the move
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Chicago and Terrell Owens it makes perfect sense. He's now one of the best WR's on the market (although he'll be a pretty penny to sign him) and he can right now be the #1 WR on our team and we are a competitive team which the likes of the Raiders are not right now. He thinks he's still a #1 and he can be it. Plus it's a big market.
You're out of your ******* mind if you think that's even a remote possibility.

Jerry Angelo is on record as saying that he wouldn't buy T.O. lunch.
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Chicago and Terrell Owens it makes perfect sense. He's now one of the best WR's on the market (although he'll be a pretty penny to sign him) and he can right now be the #1 WR on our team and we are a competitive team which the likes of the Raiders are not right now. He thinks he's still a #1 and he can be it. Plus it's a big market.
They're also a run-first team and Kyle Orton is not his quarterback. He wants him some Shaun "Who?" Hill, Sheli Manning, or Tom Brady.
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Great, now we can go 7-9 next year.

Smart move -- cutting our best offensive player...

Who needs 26 td's over the past 2 years anyways?

I'm sure Roy Williams with his 1 career 1000 yard season, his never breaking into the double digit TD barrier, and his injury prone body will fill in nicely. It will be like we didn't miss a beat.

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Giants are the best fit for both sides.

They did just sign two guys with a history of domestic violence. And I think their last big receiver shot himself or something.
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You're out of your ******* mind if you think that's even a remote possibility.

Jerry Angelo is on record as saying that he wouldn't buy T.O. lunch.
Things change. If he stays out there I'd offer him (nothing out of this world though). What have we got to lose? He's an automatic upgrade and he still has some potential, plus he'll be pissed off and determined that he got cut. I'd sign him up, draft a top tier WR, groom him while T.O. stays and then part ways with him, by then Hester should be pretty damn good and hopefully we have another couple guys ready to step in.

I said early last year that Orton was a consistent deep ball threat away from being a good QB in this league and I still believe that but he also needs weapons and T.O. is a proven weapon. He's not what he once was but he's an upgrade and he'd be THE guy here in the WR corps. We have to upgrade somehow before the start of hte season, and if we're waiting to get Heyward-Bey or Crabtree in the draft and depend on them I'll be ******* pissed. Get help for now and add some young guys.
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He said he wants to go to Dallas and Peppers really wants out of Carolina to the point where chemistry could be an issue. It would take some creativity, but I could see something happening.
He can want all he pleases, Dallas doesn't have (nor will it be willing to part with) the types of pieces it'll take to get someone of Peppers' caliber. Besides, our pass rush isn't an issue. Ware has one side locked down, and Ellis/Spencer produce very well opposite him. This makes no sense whatsoever.
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Great, now we can go 7-9 next year.

Smart move -- cutting our best offensive player...

Who needs 26 td's over the past 2 years anyways?

I'm sure Roy Williams with his 1 career 1000 yard season, his never breaking into the double digit TD barrier, and his injury prone body will fill in nicely. It will be like we didn't miss a beat.

**** me hard. Im getting stoned.
As long as romo stays healthy the boys will be just fine. TO is a team killer - addition by subtraction in this case.
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Great, now we can go 7-9 next year.

Smart move -- cutting our best offensive player...

Who needs 26 td's over the past 2 years anyways?

I'm sure Roy Williams with his 1 career 1000 yard season, his never breaking into the double digit TD barrier, and his injury prone body will fill in nicely. It will be like we didn't miss a beat.

**** me hard. Im getting stoned.
This is what I'd be thinking if I was a Cowboy fan, now all you have to do is lock up Witten and stack the line against Barber.
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Giants are the best fit for both sides.

They did just sign two guys with a history of domestic violence. And I think their last big receiver shot himself or something.
Plax shot himself because he's a nucklehead, TO's an attention *****, much worse and after how much this team improved after tiki left I don't think coughlin will welcome another player who divides the locker-room.
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This is what I'd be thinking if I was a Cowboy fan, now all you have to do is lock up Witten and stack the line against Barber.
umm no.

Dallas still has a multitude of weapons. Dallas arguably has the best combination of talent at both RB and TE. Roy Williams may very well not be a #1 option but, he'll be okay. Miles Austin, Sam Hurd, and Patrick Crayton while not stars, they have all turned themselves into sure handed football players. Miles is a burner and Hurd is a fantastic route runner with the best hands on the team. While it sucks losing a player of T.O.'s talent, it is going to be fun to see what our young guys can bring to the table.

How can you say it will be so easy to stop Dallas when they have more talent than say, the Titans at just about every skill position on offense? If Dallas commits to running the football more frequently and use all their weapons correctly and to their advantage, they can be an extremely tough team to beat. We may be a little thin at WR but, we have outstanding talent and depth at the other skill positions.
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i dont see it with austin

he has 18 catches

thats a lot of hope we're putting on a udfa
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Not completely surprised by this move. He will definitely get a solid amount of interest in the free agent market even though he is getting up there in years.
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umm no.

Dallas still has a multitude of weapons. Dallas arguably has the best combination of talent at both RB and TE. Roy Williams may very well not be a #1 option but, he'll be okay. Miles Austin, Sam Hurd, and Patrick Crayton while not stars, they have all turned themselves into sure handed football players. Miles is a burner and Hurd is a fantastic route runner with the best hands on the team. While it sucks losing a player of T.O.'s talent, it is going to be fun to see what our young guys can bring to the table.

How can you say it will be so easy to stop Dallas when they have more talent than say, the Titans at just about every skill position on offense? If Dallas commits to running the football more frequently and use all their weapons correctly and to their advantage, they can be an extremely tough team to beat. We may be a little thin at WR but, we have outstanding talent and depth at the other skill positions.
It's pretty apparent that the only receiver who has Romo's confidence is Witten.
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ESPN is praying for one of these teams;

New England (ZOMG could you imagine a Moss, Brady, Owens triangle?)
Indianapolis
Brett Favre's future team (he's comin' back guys, you know it and I do to ;))
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Steelers
Cardinals (yes, I'm sure ESPN has this up as a possible story line)
Back to Dallas (Chris Henry Style)
Back to Philadelphia (Make-up sex)
Back to SF w/ Garcia (*** sex?)
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Well, it would make him SEEM more mature.
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meh...Patrick Crayton has 89 receptions in the last two years, if he's open Romo will hit him...and Austin and Hurd havent seen a lot of time in the base offense but, they have earned the trust of Romo and he looks their way. Romo and Williams will obviously need to work on some things but, Garrett had Roy running the same routes constantly a year ago and given the circumstances, it's completely understandable they werent on the same page. Jason Witten was often a last resort, Romo tries to get the ball to T.O. and when he's blanketed, as usual, he'd force it to Witten. Romo and Garrett were under a lot of stress to get the ball to T.O., now the release of T.O. wont solve everything. Miles' route running needs to be refined and again, Romo needs to work more with Roy but, Dallas still has some fine talent at the position. They should be fine. This may actually end up helping us out a lot.
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Well **** me sideways! WTF just happened?!!!

I was a fan of TO. I liked what he brought to the field. I liked the attention he drew to open things up for others. I liked his great showmanship. Most of all, I liked his TDs. This is crazy.

I can't say that I wanted this... but I can't say I didn't want this either... We all know the selfish attitude, but that didn't bother me. Guess it doesn't matter now. Even though he was selfish, he was honest... brutally honest at times. He rubbed people the wrong way, but damn he had heart.

This is just another step in Jerry's progress as a GM. He has continually made changes as an owner/gm for the betterment of the team. I am at least appreciative of that. That's one thing about him... he doesn't usually make the same avoidable mistakes over and over again. I will be surprised if Jerry ever goes talent over character ever again. This move is significant in many facets.

For the record, I traded TO in the forum mock. So I guess I'm an advocate for this move. I just wished we got something done in a trade instead of just cutting him.
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Here's a potentially encouraging thought for Dallas fans:

The Tiki Theory.

BTW watching ESPN now and it's worth noting that T.O. is reportedly "devastated" and feels "betrayed". I think the Giants and Skins are front-runners at the moment.
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Oh god so if the Giants or Skins sign him that means 2 games against Dallas and 2 more against Philly! ESPN would go bonkers.

Owens and Santana Moss would be excellent compliments of each other. Throw in Cooley, Portis, Haynesworth, and the 13th overall pick? Hell trade that for Peppers!
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For any Dallas fan saying Austin, Hurd and Crayton will pick up the slack... that's just completely homeristic. I'll be surprised if Hurd makes it on the 53 man roster. Austin is the next coming of Dominic Hixon.... Adored until his number was called, then fell hard to the ground. Crayton is just a decent slot receiver...

The guy that has to step up to the plate is Roy Williams. NOW... this trade will have the chance to show reward. RW wasn't going to emerge as long as TO was in the picture. Simply not enough to go around. The trade was made with the intention all along that RW would be the successor as Dallas' #1 WR. Now that time is here. Now we will see if he is up to the task. We will see if he's worthy of that new 5yr/$45M contract Jerry gave him. (For reference Housh got 5yr/$40M and I don't consider him a #1 WR). So times are exciting. . . . and nervous at the same time. There is an unknown factor going into next season. How will the team react to this? Was it really chemistry issues that brought this team down? Or was it coaching/play calling/execution?

We will see.... and that has me excited.
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We were never into the TO thing
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Here's a potentially encouraging thought for Dallas fans:

The Tiki Theory.

BTW watching ESPN now and it's worth noting that T.O. is reportedly "devastated" and feels "betrayed". I think the Giants and Skins are front-runners at the moment.
I can see it now... the once TO haters changing their tune to become TO lovers.

...Giants fans moreso than Redskins fans..
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