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Old 03-06-2009, 02:32 PM    (permalink
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http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/br...ry/935888.html

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Florida State officials braced Friday for sanctions from the NCAA resulting from an academic cheating scandal.

The collegiate athletics governing body scheduled an afternoon announcement. Florida State officials would not immediately comment.

Some five dozen Florida State athletes from all sports cheated on an online test from the fall of 2006 through summer 2007 or received improper help from staffers who gave them answers to the exam and typed papers for them.

Nearly a year ago, Florida State officials announced a two-year, self-imposed probation on the school, stripping scholarships in 10 sports, including some in football. The school's probation did not ban postseason play.

President T.K. Wetherell and athletic director Randy Spetman traveled to NCAA headquarters last October for a hearing on the matter.

The cheating occurred mainly through online testing for a single music history course in the fall of 2006 and the spring and summer semesters of 2007. It included staffers helping students on the test and in one case asking one athlete to take it for another.

Florida State officials conducted the investigation with assistance from the NCAA, Atlantic Coast Conference and a consulting firm. That report was sent to the NCAA, which then conducted its own investigation.

The NCAA's student-athlete reinstatement staff, agreed to a 30 percent across-the-board loss of eligibility for students who came forward and admitted they received improper help with the test.

Florida State played in the 2007 Music City Bowl without two dozen players, including several starters. The Seminoles were defeated by Kentucky.

Many of the same athletes were held out of the first three games last fall as well as part of their punishment.
This could have huge implications for Joe Pa and Penn State fans, as the rumors flying around here are that the NCAA will strip FSU and Bobby Bowden of 14 wins over 2 seasons.
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http://www.collegefootballtalk.com/2...or-violations/

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Violation Summary: Violations of NCAA legislation involving three former University Athletics Academic Support Services staff members (including a former learning specialist) who gave improper assistance resulting in academic fraud to numerous student-athletes representing multiple sport programs. There were also associated violations relating to the provision of impermissible benefits and a failure to monitor by the institution.

Penalty Summary: Additional penalties imposed by the committee were as follows: public reprimand and censure; four years of probation (the institution had proposed a period of two years); additional limits in the number of grants-in-aid in football, men’s and women’s basketball, men’s and women’s swimming, men’s and women’s track and field, baseball, softball and men’s golf; vacation of all records in which the 61 student-athletes competed while ineligible during 2006 and 2007 in the sports of football, men’s and women’s basketball, men’s and women’s swimming, men’s and women’s track and field, baseball, softball and men’s golf; show-cause order for the former learning specialist for a period of four years; show-cause order for the former tutor for a period of three years; show-cause order for the former academic advisor for a period of five years; annual compliance reporting required.
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So maybe someone can help, but does this mean they are taking away some wins from those 2 years or no? Sounds like all wins honestly but that would be surprising.
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This is real bad.
Florida State just gave Miami and Florida fans more to bash the 'noles with.
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well this is a true test to fan hood....i love my noles...we will be fine...not relevant for awhile though :(
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yeah could have taken away post season play...and at this rate who cares if they take away the meineke car care bowl every year?
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So maybe someone can help, but does this mean they are taking away some wins from those 2 years or no? Sounds like all wins honestly but that would be surprising.
Right now it looks like yes, FSU and Bowden will lose 14 total wins but FSU is going to appeal that part of the sanction.

Here is a good article clarifying the situation:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3958292
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Hopefully Bobby stays an extra 2-3 years to get those wins back :)
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Am I missing something here?

How many scholarships did they lose?
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A Music History course? Really?
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For wide-spread academic fraud, FSU got off way too easy. The vacation of some wins is tough, but they lost just three scholarships--- from their ENTIRE athletic program, not just from football.
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Am I missing something here?

How many scholarships did they lose?
Not many at all. I think it is like 2 next year, 3 the year after, 2, then 1 then back to normal...
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I'm sure an FSU fan will somehow explain this away as being Urban Meyer's fault.
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NC State cant recruit off campus for some shoes but F$U loses a couple scholarships for their fourth string TEs from widespread cheating

This will not hurt them at all
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Not many at all. I think it is like 2 next year, 3 the year after, 2, then 1 then back to normal...
Pretty soft indeed. I wasn't expecting them to get 5 pulled per year or nothing like that because that's just out of hand.

But I was definitely expecting something in the area of 3 per year for the next 2-3 years and then 2 per year for the next couple years after that.
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I'm sure an FSU fan will somehow explain this away as being Urban Meyer's fault.
Everything in the world is Urban Meyer's fault. AIDS, 9/11, the Bush administration, cancer, Michigan's 3-9 season, World War I and II etc...
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Yeah, you sure hit the nail on the head there.
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I am going to have to refuted some of this; Michigan's 3-9 season is not entirely the fault of Urban Meyer.
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They're losing six scholarships. That's not that bad. What stands out to me is this:

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A ******* online music course? How ******* stupid are you that you cannot do the work in that class? You could just half-ass that and pass.
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You're right. Nick Sheridan should never be absolved of blame.
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lol this may be the news I'll be turning in tomorrow for my world actuality class lol
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Spoke briefly this morning with Randy Spetman – for a separate story about FSU basketball coach Leonard Hamilton – and Spetman told me that “there’s no doubt” Florida State will appeal the NCAA’s ruling that FSU must vacate victories as a result of its academic fraud case.
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