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Nice sign for you guys
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Good, sound economic move here. The Cowboys will have the personnel to be a strong presence in the ground game on both sides of the ball if they stay healthy. Olshansky will give the Cowboys similar if not parallel positive play to their defense that Canty did.
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It's a good thing the Packers aren't switching to a 3-4 or anything.
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Nice signing for the Cowboys. Finally a good, solid signing by the cowboys and not a flashy headline grabber.
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ughhh come on we have 50 mill in cap room and we can't land that type of deal??
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Wow, i'm surprised at the type of deal we got for him. What's lost with Canty isn't worth the extra 10 million guaranteed he got.
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That's hilarious... All that cap and nothing to show for it???

Are the Chiefs moving to the 3-4 though? I don't know that they would be interested in him unless they were.
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I, too, am surprised the Chiefs and Packers, two new 3-4 teams. You'd think they'd want an experienced, but still young, 3-4 DE and cut down a need come draft day. The Cowboys seem like they got a pretty good deal on him too. He's a bit of a head-case, but nothing too crazy. Nice move by Dallas, questionable tactics by Green Bay and Kansas City.
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Are the Chiefs moving to the 3-4 though? I don't know that they would be interested in him unless they were.
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green bay's one of those teams who builds almost exclusively through the draft. 20 of their 22 starters were either drafted by the pack or not starters until they were in green bay, so it's no surprise they are a little picky about signing free agents. kansas city is similar but not to nearly the same degree. I think they have some bigger fish to fry before they worry about signing an average 3-4 LDE.
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I think it has something to do with playing with Wade's defense again where had his better seasons. He wasn't as good under Rivera's.
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Solid signing for them.

He'll be stout against the run and they won't miss Canty all that much. They really could use a pass rushing presence on that dline though.

Their pass rush relied so heavily on Ware and Ratliff last year. With Ellis becoming ancient, and Spencer thus far disappointing (although Im a Spencer fan), they need to draft a dlinemen.

I don't know what to make of Dallas just yet. Losing TO makes them a dangerous team now, but at the same time, they still have this guy:

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Hmm... Then yeah... I think they could've used a DE like Igor. Tank Tyler at NT with Dorsey at DE... but who on the other side???

What happens is that it's not like every team out there has a chance to match offers that are out there. Teams pursue FAs aggressively and then try to sign them before they have a chance to leave.
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Solid signing for them.

He'll be stout against the run and they won't miss Canty all that much. They really could use a pass rushing presence on that dline though.

Their pass rush relied so heavily on Ware and Ratliff last year. With Ellis becoming ancient, and Spencer thus far disappointing (although Im a Spencer fan), they need to draft a dlinemen.

I don't know what to make of Dallas just yet. Losing TO makes them a dangerous team now, but at the same time, they still have this guy:

Eh, that guy got our defense playing pretty amazing last season, so i'm not too worried. Instead of him, you should have put a picture of the ginger. He's who will hold us back, not Wade.
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Eh, that guy got our defense playing pretty amazing last season, so i'm not too worried. Instead of him, you should have put a picture of the ginger. He's who will hold us back, not Wade.
The Ginger isn't the HC though. Wade's issues aren't his coordinating, its his management skills.

A HC is so much more than just a coordinator. From the offseason lifting programs, to rules and discipline, to film room study to team management, establishing a mentality within the team etc.

Wade epically fails at all of the above. He's a doormat in that regard.

I wouldn't sleep on the Cowboys. I think now with TO gone, they can be a dangerous team. The only thing holding them back is Wade Phillips imo, and the soft mentality he brought and infested his team with.
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The Ginger isn't the HC though. Wade's issues aren't his coordinating, its his management skills.

A HC is so much more than just a coordinator. From the offseason lifting programs, to rules and discipline, to film room study to team management, establishing a mentality within the team etc.

Wade epically fails at all of the above. He's a doormat in that regard.

I wouldn't sleep on the Cowboys. I think now with TO gone, they can be a dangerous team. The only thing holding them back is Wade Phillips imo, and the soft mentality he brought and infested his team with.
Well thanks for the insight, i always thought HC's just showed up Sundays and told people what to do.

Why do you feel that Wade is a "doormat" in those areas? Where's the evidence you've used to come to that conclusion? The Ginger is the one that was in charge of the offense that was horribly stagnant and predictable last year, and what cost us games and the playoffs. That's why we're scared of what he'll do.
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Solid signing for them.

He'll be stout against the run and they won't miss Canty all that much. They really could use a pass rushing presence on that dline though.

Their pass rush relied so heavily on Ware and Ratliff last year. With Ellis becoming ancient, and Spencer thus far disappointing (although Im a Spencer fan), they need to draft a dlinemen.

I don't know what to make of Dallas just yet. Losing TO makes them a dangerous team now, but at the same time, they still have this guy:

I agree with this sentiment. Even though we lead the league in sacks last year with 54, we need Spencer to step his game up. I personally have doubts with the guy, but I'm patiently waiting.

I see what you mean about needing more pass rush on the DL, but I think they will be addressing NT and not necessarily DE in the draft. I'm thinking a guy like Ron Brace... and moving Ratliff to DE.

As for Wade... his contract is over after the season. It's doubtful his contract gets renewed as a HC, but Jerry might keep him on as DC. He probably won't find another HC job for the rest of his career, so stepping down as DC in a place as comfortable for him as Texas makes sense. There's a reason why Jerry hasn't hired a DC this offseason... he's keep that spot available for Wade in the future, so he doesn't have to fire a guy and can keep consistency in the Defensive scheme/philosophy. Who that new HC will be??? My guess.. Shanny... Ironic seeing as Shanny was brought in to replace Wade in Denver, ain't it? Jerry has an affection for Shanny... every training camp the last few years, we've held scrimmages with Denver because of their relationship. Add in the fact that Jerry keeps talking about putting Romo in the best situation to perform well... I'll tell ya... There isn't a better offensive system for Romo than the WCO. Favre, Hassellbeck, Steve Young... This Ernie Zampese offense that Garrett runs is not the best system for our personnel... and won't work here for long.

That said... this is all my own personal outlook on things.
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green bay's one of those teams who builds almost exclusively through the draft. 20 of their 22 starters were either drafted by the pack or not starters until they were in green bay, so it's no surprise they are a little picky about signing free agents. kansas city is similar but not to nearly the same degree. I think they have some bigger fish to fry before they worry about signing an average 3-4 LDE.
whose that?

anyway isn't KC base defense staying in a 4-3? like the Cards?

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The Ginger isn't the HC though. Wade's issues aren't his coordinating, its his management skills.

A HC is so much more than just a coordinator. From the offseason lifting programs, to rules and discipline, to film room study to team management, establishing a mentality within the team etc.

Wade epically fails at all of the above. He's a doormat in that regard.

I wouldn't sleep on the Cowboys. I think now with TO gone, they can be a dangerous team. The only thing holding them back is Wade Phillips imo, and the soft mentality he brought and infested his team with.
Yep. Wade is a good DC, but as a HC, he stinks. He wanted to hire ole buddy, Dan Reeves just to be a buffer between him and Garrett because Garrett doesn't listen. LOL. Jerry wanted Reeves because Garrett doesn't have the expertise that comes with experience.
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