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Old 03-15-2009, 04:09 PM    (permalink
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I guess i'd want more if i was a VT fan and wouldn't be "comfortable" going 9-3 and 8-4 but i guess that's the Gator success in me....
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2008 Record: 3-9

Aug. 30 Utah L 25-23
Sept. 6 Miami Univ. W 16-6
Sept. 13 at Notre Dame L 35-17
Sept. 20 OPEN DATE
Sept. 27 Wisconsin W 27-25
Oct. 4 Illinois L 45-20
Oct. 11 Toledo L 13-10
Oct. 18 at Penn State L 46-17
Oct. 25 Michigan State L 35-21
Nov. 1 at Purdue L 48-42
Nov. 8 at Minnesota W 29-6
Nov. 15 Northwestern W 21-14
Nov. 22 at Ohio State L 42-7



when the last time UF won 3 games?

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bahaha you must be a new Gator fan.
I'm 22 and been a Gator fan since 1992 bruh so yea the Gator success in me. did you see us being "happy and comfortable" with where Zook had us? No
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I'm 22 and been a Gator fan since 1992 bruh so yea the Gator success in me. did you see us being "happy and comfortable" with where Zook had us? No
No but I saw a bunch of impatient whining Gator fans who showed their true colors with the lack of class they showed Zook. I did see you all happy and comfortable with Spurrier though even though he was consistently third best in state.

and note to self: I owe Michigan rep for that beautiful post.
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No but I saw a bunch of impatient whining Gator fans who showed their true colors with the lack of class they showed Zook. I did see you all happy and comfortable with Spurrier though even though he was consistently third best in state.

and note to self: I owe Michigan rep for that beautiful post.
Right because every fan base doesn't have there share of whining fans . Umm the only time UF was 3rd in the state was in the 80's when it was Miami, FSU, then UF. the 90's was FSU, UF, and Miami. 2000 has been UF, Miami, FSU. Agreed?

But anyways, the premise of my post was the VT can be comfortable with there position but if i was a Hokie fan, i'd be waiting for when are we going to take that NEXT jump.
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I guess i'd want more if i was a VT fan and wouldn't be "comfortable" going 9-3 and 8-4 but i guess that's the Gator success in me....
The last time that VT was "9-3 or 8-4" was 6 years ago. As opposed to say Florida which has put up records like that in 4 of the 6 years. Congrats on winning the NC in those other 2 years, but they haven't been able to sustain success in Gainesville.
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I'm 22 and been a Gator fan since 1992 bruh so yea the Gator success in me. did you see us being "happy and comfortable" with where Zook had us? No
You were what...5 or 6 when you first became a Gator fan?

the image makes me lol.
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You were what...5 or 6 when you first became a Gator fan?

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The last time that VT was "9-3 or 8-4" was 6 years ago. As opposed to say Florida which has put up records like that in 4 of the 6 years. Congrats on winning the NC in those other 2 years, but they haven't been able to sustain success in Gainesville.
See and you are proving my point. when we had those win loss records, we just didn't sit back and say "it's ok, we're comfortable with that", we made a move but to each his own. You acting as if i'm trashing Frank Beamer and VT, i'm not, i'm just saying since he's been there i would atleast expect one national title.
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See and you are proving my point. when we had those win loss records, we just didn't sit back and say "it's ok, we're comfortable with that", we made a move but to each his own. You acting as if i'm trashing Frank Beamer and VT, i'm not, i'm just saying since he's been there i would atleast expect one national title.
By made a move you mean insert another 4 or 5 star recruit into the lineup. Some teams have that luxury while others do not. Some require their coaches to coach up the talent while others could have a donkey lead them to a NC based on the talent on the roster. Recruiting kids to come to a rural school in the mountains of Virginia is different than offering the warm weather of a place like Florida. But as you said, to each his own.
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By made a move you mean insert another 4 or 5 star recruit into the lineup. Some teams have that luxury while others do not. Some require their coaches to coach up the talent while others could have a donkey lead them to a NC based on the talent on the roster. Recruiting kids to come to a rural school in the mountains of Virginia is different than offering the warm weather of a place like Florida. But as you said, to each his own.
Not to mention the separate athletic budgets....
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By made a move you mean insert another 4 or 5 star recruit into the lineup. Some teams have that luxury while others do not. Some require their coaches to coach up the talent while others could have a donkey lead them to a NC based on the talent on the roster. Recruiting kids to come to a rural school in the mountains of Virginia is different than offering the warm weather of a place like Florida. But as you said, to each his own.
No when i said "made a move" i was implying that the seasons where we was going 8-5 and what not under Zook prompted us to make a move in firing him and bringing in Meyer.
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No when i said "made a move" i was implying that the seasons where we was going 8-5 and what not under Zook prompted us to make a move in firing him and bringing in Meyer.
2005: 9-3-0
Coach:Urban Meyer

2007: 9-4-0
Coach:Urban Meyer

You right, what was I thinking? Meyer has put up underachieving seasons in half his seasons as the coach at Florida according to your standards. Big boy moves.
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2005: 9-3-0
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2007: 9-4-0
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You right, what was I thinking? Meyer has put up underachieving seasons in half his seasons as the coach at Florida according to your standards. Big boy moves.
right and according to our standards, he's won more national titles than Frank Beamer has also. 2005 was his first season there (like the eye ball test didn't show he was coaching a team that wasn't fit for his system) and last season we were gutted on defense (like you didn't know this).

2006 Virginia Tech 10-3
2007 Virginia Tech 11-3
2008 Virginia Tech 10-4

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Overachievers:

TCU -- Smaller school (<7,000 students) in Ft. Worth but consistently puts a decent defense on the field, just ask Oklahoma....
Stanford -- Even 3-4 wins per yr. is overachieving for these Fightin' National Merit Scholars b/c they can't take juco transfers, every yr. play teams who do
Fresno St. -- Pat Hill works the California juco system better than any Pac 10 coach not named Carroll
San Jose St. -- Dick Tomey brought them back from near-death, he resurrected programs at Arizona (remember Desert Swarm?) & Hawaii, he's making defensively it on Pac 10 transfers but has to face huge obstacles in Boise St. & Fresno St. annually
Oklahoma St. -- It helps a lot when mega-rich alum T. Boone Pickens gives you $450M for a new stadium & athletic dept.
Oregon St -- The new Pac 10 Giant Killers

Underachievers:

Michigan -- How far the mighty have fallen, biggest disappointment in '08....Rodriguez found out it gets worse before it can get better
Notre Dame -- OK, they got back to mediocre by beating Navy, bfd -- of the former NFL HCs in NCAA Div. 1 now only Weis is floundering at ND
Nebraska -- See Michigan, above, but substitute Pioli for Rodriguez
Tennessee -- Kiffin will be finding out like Fulmer that the SEC is the roughest schedule in the nation, offense sank from top 10 to bottom 4-5% in '08, the bar of expectation has been raised very high here & Kiffin has a long way to go

Ohio St. btw has great recruiting & is an obvious dominant program but Sweatervest hasn't been able to win the big ones, that doesn't necessarily make them an underachiever.

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