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Old 03-14-2009, 02:27 PM    (permalink
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I like this a lot for the Lions.
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I think it's funny how both sides are trying to make it seem like it was a win for their team and a bad deal for the other... I think it's a smart move by both sides.
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I just enjoy the fact that the Lions added a playmaker to the defense. We didn't have anyone capable of doing anything out of the ordinary previously.
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I'm just saying it doesn't happen. Teams don't go for MLBs in the first five picks. Chris Claiborne (#9 overall) is the highest-draft ILB in the last ten years to my knowledge (Jerod Mayo would be second at #10), while there have been numerous outside linebackers taken ahead of that. There's not much of a premium placed on inside guys. I think Curry could play inside for Kansas City, but I also think if there was a top 'tweener (I don't see Orakpo as being one), they'd rather take that guy.
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This sounds like a case of GM vs Coach

Schwartz wanted Curry.

GM wanted Stafford.

Trade for Peterson, coach will go for Stafford now.
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This sounds like a case of GM vs Coach

Schwartz wanted Curry.

GM wanted Stafford.
How the hell could you possibly say that? You don't know what you're talking about.

Schwartz wanted linebackers, period. Because the Lions don't have any of those. He tried to sign a couple and failed because it's hard to get guys to come here willingly, so they needed to trade for one.
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it's dumping a horrible millen made contract by a dt on a team who was either last or next to last in the league in pass and rush defense last year. and detroit had i believe two holes to fill at linebacker to fill a traditional 43. and peterson was just a pro bowler. i can see detroit easily going stafford now that they have some kind of defense. they can feel free to draft for the future instead of just filling out the team.
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This is a good move for both teams, depending on what Redding's new contract looks like.
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Mayhew continues to impress me. It's crazy to think we had an idiot like Millen over him.
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A WIN for Detroit!
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BJ Raji #1 overall pick is now a lock. FAIL.
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How the hell do you figure that. It's not a lock they'll go DT because they traded Cory freakin Redding. It's still going to be Stafford.
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nah, Jason Smith :D
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I like the move for both teams.

Both guys can still play.
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I'm just saying it doesn't happen. Teams don't go for MLBs in the first five picks. Chris Claiborne (#9 overall) is the highest-draft ILB in the last ten years to my knowledge (Jerod Mayo would be second at #10), while there have been numerous outside linebackers taken ahead of that. There's not much of a premium placed on inside guys. I think Curry could play inside for Kansas City, but I also think if there was a top 'tweener (I don't see Orakpo as being one), they'd rather take that guy.
Wasn't Urlacher #7 or 8?
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Except that outside linebackers actually, you know, DO get drafted in the top five. See LaVar Arrington and AJ Hawk, who were both drafted to play outside.
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He was picked #9 ... but I believe the Bears had hopes for him as an OLB
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Seems like both teams getting rid of overpaid baggage. Detroit comes out a little better though because of Peterson's past Pro Bowl appearances.
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What do Seattle fans think about Curry to Seattle at #4 if he gets past the Chiefs? He is a Mora kind of strong side 'backer.
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Good trade for both if Redding plays like he did in last half of 2006 and first half of 2007. 2002-first half of 2006 he wasn't very good while at DE and 2008was not very good either without Shaun Rogers, especially in stopping the run. Seattle still needs a stud DT though to help Redding but he's a good undertackle that can wreak havoc in the backfield just not consistently like a Kevin Williams obviously. Without a run stopping DT next to him, Reddings run defense isn't very good. See 2006 and 2008. However, he is better than Rocky Bernard and is a legitimate starter in the league,cheaper for Seattle and with Tatupu behind him shoud excel.

As for the Lions, we gotta go DT in the draft now because Grady Jackson is our best DT and isn't an every down player. Peria Jerry would be a perfect fit at 20 or Hood/Brace at 33.

Peterson is a huge upgrade over those so called LBs Detroit had last year though(they were more like traffic cones because they got run over or run around so much). Peterson probably has 4-5 years left. He upgrades our pass rush from blitzing tremendously(especially given the RTs in the division Tait retired, Tauscher up in the air and Cook) and given our DEs as only average with White and Avril showing promise, thats a good thing. Plus this opens the door for Stafford instead of Curry. You think Peterson is expensive, Curry will be very costly at number 1.
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Maybe the Seahawks draft Brian Orakpo now.
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You guys are all grossly overrating JP. He's still a serviceable starter but he's no where near the player he was two years ago and is definitely on the decline. He'll add a pass-rushing threat- and that's huge for Detroit, but his coverage has tailed off (was once the best coverage LB in the league), and he's not very good against the run.

The great thing about this deal for Seattle was the simple fact that they were going to cut him anyway.

I would've been happy just to get the 5th round pick honestly...

Redding re-worked his deal and this move saves the Hawks $4.6 million in cap room right now and A LOT more for the future (JP was scheduled to make a fortune as an old, declining LB for the next three years).

There is little-to-no chance the Seahawks even draft an OLB at all, let alone at #4. Right after this move was made today, the team re-signed D.D. Lewis and Lance Laury- as CC pointed out, Lewis started at OLB in 2005 (their Super Bowl year).

The financial aspect of the move also has to do with not tying up so much $ in three LBs. Now the FO can get to work on giving LeRoy Hill a long-term deal. Extremely doubtful they spend #4 money on Aaron Curry.

Anyone who watched the team can tell you that Hill is easily better than JP right now.

The Lions do get a starting LB and rid themselves of an overpaid contract. As far as draft repercussions, the only impact this deal makes is that now the Lions could go for a DT. Peria Jerry would be an excellent pick at #20 (or maybe even #33) IMO.

As a Seahawks fan I'm happy about the move based mostly on the fact that they were about to cut him anyway, but I'm cautiously optimistic about Redding- you can't get too excited about anyone from that defense. I hope a new environment will get him back to his 2007 form. Brandon Mebane could be his new Shaun Rogers....
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Uh... he is a SAM that ANY coach would love. He is so well rounded which is what makes him such a good prospect.
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I think I like it. Cory Redding hasn't done much since getting his big ass contract.. DT is a must, unless we're gonna swing another trade for a starter there..

So far, I'm liking Mayhew's trades.. hopefully he and his staff are good talent evaluators.
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Can peterson play DE for the lions some snaps
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Can peterson play DE for the lions some snaps
I know he has in the past, I'd probably think so.
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