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Old 03-14-2009, 09:37 PM    (permalink
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According to this study!

http://musicthatmakesyoudumb.virgil.gr/

Matches SAT scores of people with the music they like. Interesting.. but I claim racism!

Here's the chart (big picture)

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Wow - Why is Counting Crows so high?
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Interesting that "Classical" is so far left.
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whew, luckily Beethoven dominates my iPod playlist
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Interesting that "Classical" is so far left.
Because people with higher IQ often appreciate classical music.
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Because people with higher IQ often appreciate classical music.
Yes, hence why it's interesting it's so far left (low on the scale).
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Yes, hence why it's interesting it's so far left (low on the scale).
I know, that one seems weird to me. Probably just a flaw in the way the study was conducted.
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I know, that one seems weird to me. Probably just a flaw in the way the study was conducted.
Yea, you would have to assume so. Especially with Beethoven the furthest right. I mean, Beethoven is significantly enough above most classical music, but it isn't that much of a disparity.
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So basically if you listen to rap you can't be smart, or smart people don't listen to rap? That's a bunch of crap.
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Beethoven is significantly enough above most classical music
If I wasnt as drunk as I am, I would tell you why I think Bach is better but you are on the right track with regards to Beethoven & classical music on this chart.
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If I wasnt as drunk as I am, I would tell you why I think Bach is better but you are on the right track with regards to Beethoven & classical music on this chart.
Well, obviously there are numerous other composers that can be argued to be as good, but I meant because there were just the two options.

But really, is anyone surprised with this? I mean, we all know how garbage music is today, yet somehow it's popular. Society is dumb.
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I like how Gospel listeners are also amongst the dumbest people in America. I also like how Radiohead (who I listen to almost constantly) and many other bands I listen to are so high up. Now I can go around telling people studies say I listen to smart people music and I can get called a huge douche.

It was also funny seeing almost every emo band ranked in the dumb section.
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So basically if you listen to rap you can't be smart, or smart people don't listen to rap? That's a bunch of crap.
The study is just saying the majority of people who listen to rap are very close to being legally ********.
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So basically if you listen to rap you can't be smart, or smart people don't listen to rap? That's a bunch of crap.
That's not what the study, or any study shows. A study/experiment says that the average subject that falls in one of the categories would most likely get the represented outcome.

In this case, the average Lil' Wayne fan, Beyonce fan, Rap fan, etc. gets lower on their SAT than fans of Beck or Guster. It doesn't mean it's 100% true, just the average.
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I can understand little wayne and beyonce, but the rest of this list looks like ****...predjudice **** at that.
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One of the funnier observations, besides the fact that many people clearly listen to a handful of the bands that are on polar opposite ends of the spectrum, was how can people who listen to Reggae and those who listen to Bob Marley have a 100+ point differential in score.
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That's not what the study, or any study shows. A study/experiment says that the average subject that falls in one of the categories would most likely get the represented outcome.

In this case, the average Lil' Wayne fan, Beyonce fan, Rap fan, etc. gets lower on their SAT than fans of Beck or Guster. It doesn't mean it's 100% true, just the average.
It's still close enough to saying that, and I hate stupid surveys like these anyway, it depends on who you survey, where those people grew up and where they live, alot of different variables, I just hate **** like this that makes it look like only idiots can listen to a certain type of music.
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One of the funnier observations, besides the fact that many people clearly listen to a handful of the bands that are on polar opposite ends of the spectrum, was how can people who listen to Reggae and those who listen to Bob Marley have a 100+ point differential in score.
Because this is someone probably handing out a survey that says, "what did you get on your SAT?" followed by "check all the following that you're fans of..." It's obviously not scientific at all.
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One of the funnier observations, besides the fact that many people clearly listen to a handful of the bands that are on polar opposite ends of the spectrum, was how can people who listen to Reggae and those who listen to Bob Marley have a 100+ point differential in score.

Cause this graph was made by some dude on the internet.
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It's still close enough to saying that, and I hate stupid surveys like these anyway, it depends on who you survey, where those people grew up and where they live, alot of different variables, I just hate **** like this that makes it look like only idiots can listen to a certain type of music.
Well, I mean, any study is clearly going to have outliers in the reported data, regardless of validity. It may give off the view like you say, but any rational person would understand not everyone follows the trend.

So really, the people that believe any results to be 100% true are kinda dumb for not knowing how to interpret in the first place, so it kinda fits.
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I can understand little wayne and beyonce, but the rest of this list looks like ****...predjudice **** at that.
Your response is the exact reason why there can never be studies on racial differences in intelligence. Instead, we have to rely on correlations in test scores and socio-economic achievement differences. Yes, "correlation does not prove causation," but it is a very interesting topic.

I doubt this persons goal was to prove one ethnicity or race was less intelligent, maybe it was a generational motivation??

If anyone is being blinded by bias it is you; you're the one lumping a race or ethnicity into certain categories of listening to certain music. All this test did was compare music to SAT scores. Not race/ethnicity to SAT scores.

Edit: Not meant as an attack, however, I just get annoyed that any study that brings up cultural differences in intelligence is always crucified as racist/bigotry BS.
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i'm curious if any of the people ******** about the "study" actually bothered going to the bloody website and reading how he did it.

i mean, it's fun and all, making **** up because you can then be outraged by it, but it's more fun when you actually have some vague clue what the facts actually are (such as they are in this case).

but then, the graph shows people who listen to rap music have low sat scores. the ******* of people about that indicates that they can't read. so maybe the whole system is less flawed than it looked at first glance.
Whoa whoa whoa, people thinking before posting? You have obviously not been around here very long. :)
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no, i'm just temporarily delusional.
I hear ya. You would expect most people to have common sense, but we all know that's not the case.
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