The Official Kansas City Chiefs General Discussion Thread - Page 36

vidae · 03-21-2010, 05:23 PM

T-RICH! We're glad you're ok!

Yeah pretty good signings. Glad you're back.

Splat · 03-22-2010, 01:34 PM

Josh Looney - no number assigned to T.Jones yet...he must be ready to wheel and deal with D. Washington for that #20. :)

Splat · 03-23-2010, 11:53 AM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3...ng-doesnt-mean

Pioli: Wiegmann Signing Doesn't Mean Niswanger's Gone.

"Don’t make it out to be some sort of ominous sign that means this player is on the way out," Pioli said according to Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star. "Here’s what it means for Rudy: It means there’s going to be stiff competition for his position just like every other player has. We’re trying to get better."

"That competition will sort itself out. We’re trying to put the five best offensive linemen that fit out on the field. Other than that, we’re not going to be boxed into anything."

"We went back and watched games specifically against some of the bigger players and the bigger nose tackles and Casey played well," he said. "He’s a very smart, crafty football player and still a solid starter in the National Football League."

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 03-23-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3...ng-doesnt-mean

Pioli: Wiegmann Signing Doesn't Mean Niswanger's Gone.

"Don’t make it out to be some sort of ominous sign that means this player is on the way out," Pioli said according to Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star. "Here’s what it means for Rudy: It means there’s going to be stiff competition for his position just like every other player has. We’re trying to get better."

"That competition will sort itself out. We’re trying to put the five best offensive linemen that fit out on the field. Other than that, we’re not going to be boxed into anything."

"We went back and watched games specifically against some of the bigger players and the bigger nose tackles and Casey played well," he said. "He’s a very smart, crafty football player and still a solid starter in the National Football League."

Still a solid starter in the NFL (Why do most upper managment and coaches in the NFL referr to it as Nation Football League? Maybe, they're not into the whole brevity thing.NFL is so much faster and it flows off the tongue.), but we brought in someone else to compete with him. I love it!

I think we all figured Niswanger as the backup, not gone. He has good enough skills to play a backup role at C and G. That flexibilty is nice to have in a backup.

vidae · 03-23-2010, 12:44 PM

Yeah I agree, I never expected Niswanger to be CUT, just.. not starting. He just isn't good enough, and there are worse things in life.

Hermstheman83 · 03-23-2010, 02:11 PM

Does a weigman signing mean no looks at Pouncey?

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 03-23-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermstheman83

Does a weigman signing mean no looks at Pouncey?

We have to get younger and better at the C position. Pouncey should definitely be on Pioli's radar. It's just a matter of timing and availabilty.

Splat · 03-23-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermstheman83

Does a weigman signing mean no looks at Pouncey?

Not at all IMO.

vidae · 03-23-2010, 03:18 PM

I don't think so, no. Wiegmann is a year or two stop-gap rental, at best. I'd be surprised if G/C wasn't address this year.

Splat · 03-24-2010, 09:35 AM

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/03/2...ox-and-ndukwe/

"The Chiefs re-signed two under the radar players in FB Mike Cox and G Ike Ndukwe.

Ndukwe siged his RFA tender and Cox was an exclusive rights free agent."

Splat · 03-25-2010, 11:15 AM

vidae · 03-25-2010, 11:23 AM

Man, watching that brings back a lot of memories.

And I really wish we had that offensive line again, they were so damn beastly, not to mention Tony Richardson who has been a gd stud his entire career.

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 03-25-2010, 12:35 PM

Wow!! That was awesome to watch, agian. I got goosebumps watching it. That was really impressive. Everyone knew what we were going to do when we got the Red Zone and no one could stop it. If only we had a mediocre defense, we could have beaten Indy that year in the playoffs. Who knows? Thanx for posting that. I needed alittle reminder of what it WAS like at Arrowhead. We will get back there agian. I just hope it's sooner rather than later!

Morton · 03-25-2010, 01:35 PM

You know, if the Chiefs draft somebody like a Russell Okung or a Bryan Bulaga instead of Eric Berry, you might get that kind of dominant offensive line again.

Substitute "Jamaal Charles" for "Priest Holmes" and boom, there you go.

vidae · 03-25-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Morton

You know, if the Chiefs draft somebody like a Russell Okung or a Bryan Bulaga instead of Eric Berry, you might get that kind of dominant offensive line again.

Substitute "Jamaal Charles" for "Priest Holmes" and boom, there you go.

I lol'd at this.

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 03-25-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

I lol'd at this.

I did to. Okung I agree with, Bulaga not so much. Just a matter of opinion. Truth be told, I know my own luck. If the Chiefs drafted Bulaga, I would hate it. It wasn't a "sexy" enough pick for me, but I can assure you that because I don't like him and didn't agree with his selection, he would be a complete stud. All the players I have loved in the Chiefs past drafts haven't quite panned out so well, Dorsey (jury is still out. Much improvement between year 1 and 2), D Bowe, Derrick Johnson. The picks I haven't liked have been much better, Tyson Jackson (who knows? to early to tell), Tamba Hali, Larry Johnson. I have been right on a few occasions. I loved John Tait when we drafted him and I hated Ryan Sims.

Morton, you are right about making the Oline great. I just don't want to have it be another 2003 when we could have won the Super Bowl if only we had a defense good enough to make the other team punt at least once. As of now, the running game in the last 6 games of '09 looked alot like those highlights. Maybe we can build on that and do just as you suggested, substitute Jamaal for Priest.

adschofield · 03-25-2010, 07:14 PM

I'm starting to see everyone's point on Bulaga..Not a Top 5 IMO...But honestly, I don't see how we can pass up on Okung. He's the definition of a franchise tackle. If Okung isn't there, try to trade down to a team looking to lock up a QB.

Okung would be my first choice. But if he's not available and we can't trade down (A very likely scenario), then I would focus my attention on McClain, Berry, JPP, and give some thought to Joe Haden. JPP doesn't seem like a "Pioli"-type player, and I have a hard time believing we would take a DB in the top 5 given Pioli's history (letting Asante Samuel walk, etc.).

So to recap, Okung or McClain are my top 2 choices. And I think all this Bulaga talk might be a smokescreen to prevent people from jumping in front of us to grab Okung before us.

MizzouBig12 · 03-25-2010, 08:49 PM

Okung still gives me Trezelle Jenkins flashbacks.

clay_allison · 03-25-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Man, watching that brings back a lot of memories.

And I really wish we had that offensive line again, they were so damn beastly, not to mention Tony Richardson who has been a gd stud his entire career.

Willie Roaf and Will Shields were possibly the two best at their positions I've ever seen.

villagewarrior · 03-26-2010, 01:05 PM

If the Chiefs are going to draft a tackle, am I the only one who would rather have Trent Williams over Bulaga?

TheMatriculator · 03-26-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by villagewarrior

If the Chiefs are going to draft a tackle, am I the only one who would rather have Trent Williams over Bulaga?

Kiper agrees with you!

Of course there are some of us who don't believe the Chiefs will take a tackle in the first round.

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 03-26-2010, 02:37 PM

ONLY, and thats a caps lock ONLY, if he is at RT not LT AND if we trade down a few spots. I don't think #5 is the spot to draft a RT unless you thought he could play LT.

vidae · 03-26-2010, 04:35 PM

If we absolutely have to draft a tackle, and Okung is off the board, yes, I'd much rather have Trent Williams over Bryan Bulaga.

Hermstheman83 · 03-26-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

If we absolutely have to draft a tackle, and Okung is off the board, yes, I'd much rather have Trent Williams over Bryan Bulaga.

Why is that? Are they that much different? I for one would almost rather reach for Dan Williams that have two left tackles on our team. At least with Williams you fill an immediate need.

villagewarrior · 03-27-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

If we absolutely have to draft a tackle, and Okung is off the board, yes, I'd much rather have Trent Williams over Bryan Bulaga.

This is my sentiment as well. The Chiefs absolutely must draft defensive help at 5, and I'm talking about Berry or McClain, not Dan Williams. I'm suspicious of late post-season rises like he has had. Berry and McClain have a history of showing up on game day.