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Old 07-31-2011, 09:54 AM    (permalink
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Gregg is better than a stop gap.
Hey, I love the pick up but the guy is 34 he is a stop gap.

He will more then likely start and I'm glad to have him but he is not a long term anwser.
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i don't think anyone is complaining about getting Gregg. i think we are just feeling unfulfilled. we lose our starting NT and starting DE. all we've done to replace them is sign Gregg. Gregg is a good player that hopefully will step in an help this DLine stop the run. unless TJax is taking a huge step forward and Bailey is going to be the depth that TJax was last year, then i feel we are still just a little short of where we need to be on the DLine. that has little to do with Gregg and more to do with our overall depth.
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i don't think anyone is complaining about getting Gregg. i think we are just feeling unfulfilled. we lose our starting NT and starting DE. all we've done to replace them is sign Gregg. Gregg is a good player that hopefully will step in an help this DLine stop the run. unless TJax is taking a huge step forward and Bailey is going to be the depth that TJax was last year, then i feel we are still just a little short of where we need to be on the DLine. that has little to do with Gregg and more to do with our overall depth.
Well we did lose 2 D-Linemen, but we did draft 2, which are most likely backups, and signed Gregg who starts in place of Edwards, and I'd hope, and I'm sure Pioli and Haley are hoping TJax lives up to those #3 pick expectations this year, I really don't think we will see anymore "name FA" except maybe McClain at FB, I think we have all of our starters and primary backups on the roster already.
Starters DE - TJax NT - Gregg DE - Dorsey
Primary BU DE - Bailey NT - Powe DE - Gilberry
With Dion Gales, Anthony Toribio, and Brandon Bair fighting it out for the last 1 or 2 D-Line spots.
I also think we will see a lot of more hybrid/exotic defensive looks this year.
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Hey, I love the pick up but the guy is 34 he is a stop gap.

He will more then likely start and I'm glad to have him but he is not a long term anwser.
Long term answer no. On that we agree.

However "stop gap" implies an emergency situation. This, in turn, implies both low level of production and a very short term, as in a few games. Gregg is a veteran starter from an elite defense. We can expect quality production. His time frame is a season or two, not a game or two.
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The Chiefs have signed LB Brandon Siler from SD.
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It only makes us better, I think Siler starts over Belcher. But it brings in some good competition for that spot next to DJ. Siler is also very good on STs.
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Agreed. My biggest concern with the Chiefs right now is depth so more moves like this are needed.

I'm really freaking out about our depth at QB if Cassel gets hurt we are so screwed.
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Agreed. My biggest concern with the Chiefs right now is depth so more moves like this are needed.

I'm really freaking out about our depth at QB if Cassel gets hurt we are so screwed.
I understand that, look at what Croyle did in the one game vs. the Chargers that Cassel was out for. I wouldn't mine a Bulger type but he is to expensive. Seriously though, I wouldn't be afraid to throw Stanzi in to the wolves.
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Don't get me wrong I loved the Stanzi pick but that doesn't mean I want to see him out there this year lol.
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The Chiefs D Line has depth and so does the secondary

Daniels, Berry, McGraw, Lewis, Flowers, Arenas, Brown, Washington, Carr(soon)

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Tribio, Powe, Gregg, Tjax, Dorsey, Gilberry, Bailey and a UDFA i think Bair. Solid depth.

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Hali, Studebaker, Houston, Belcher, DJ, DeMorrio, Siler, Pierre Walters, I think Gabe Miller makes the squad
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Outside of C I'm not sold on the OL depth.

As for the DL if Gilberry plays like he did last year and Bailey isn't a "deer in the head lights rookie" they should be fine.

My biggest concern on the DL is TJax not stepping up...
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Outside of C I'm not sold on the OL depth.

As for the DL if Gilberry plays like he did last year and Bailey isn't a "deer in the head lights rookie" they should be fine.

My biggest concern on the DL is TJax not stepping up...
I just think Guard and C is fine since Hudson can play both, I think Harris ends up on the squad, we need B Rich and we need to sign another tackle.
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I am happy if they just do what the Pats do and carry 2 QBs. With Zorn, they should be more than fine. Bring in Brad Smith...

Depth was the biggest issue on defense, and they really got it done with the draft. They need another corner or two, but I think they're in great shape. Ty Warren is a nice option, too. They need a backup OT and WR depth... This team looks really good.
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Lilja has been moved to LG which is what he played for the Colts and Asamoah has been moved to RG.
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The Kansas City Chiefs officially have offensive tackle Barry Richardson under contract. This leaves CB Brandon Carr as the lone unsigned restricted free agent.
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I hope Carr signs it soon. We need to get him and Flowers long term deals.. as well as Tamba and Bowe. Ugh. Might be hard signing everyone.
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That is one of the reasons I'm ok with not doing much in FA I would much rather resign our own guys.

Hali,Flowers and Bowe in that order.

I would love to lock up Carr as well but if I had to pick one to lose it would be him.
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Shouldn't be. Keeping the core defensive players and Bowe is what most of that cap room should be going towards. Carr, Flowers, Tamba, and Bowe should all get deals done throughout the pre-season.
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if we don't keep one of the CBs, I know thats what they do in NE so if Pioli picked that up I bet Flowers will be traded unless he's willing to take a very team friendly contract.
Remember if you have a strong pass rush it makes your defensive backfield look better than it is. I think its extremely important that we keep Hali, Bowe, Dorsey, and Gilberry, it all starts in the trenches, I don't think we will keep a lot of the "skill" players unless they sign very team friendly contracts.
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That's what they do in NE when the star CB decides to hold out.
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Don't get me wrong Carr has stepped up his game and I want to keep him but if it comes down to Carr or Flowers I'm taking Flowers every day of the week.
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We shouldn't have to choose, hopefully.

Flowers was hurt much of last year, but Carr stepped it up in a big way.
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Don't get me wrong Carr has stepped up his game and I want to keep him but if it comes down to Carr or Flowers I'm taking Flowers every day of the week.
The only way one of them will get snubbed is if someone holds out and makes a stink about their contract. I think the market was set with Cromartie's $32m/4y contract. Give Flowers $40/5 and Carr $37/5 and I think we're good.

You could probably even go $30/5 with Carr if you make a point to sign him first. Then you can probably leverage that contract to get Flowers to take a little less. than $40.

Also, Charles Johnson got $72/6. Give Tamba $78/6... Pretty easy. Holmes got $50/5, give Bowe the same contract.

I just signed all of the guys that need to be re-signed... What's up now?
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