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Old 03-06-2007, 09:45 PM    (permalink
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That could get Denver their much needed pass rusher
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This is the most recent trade I am hearing:

#6 pick overall and Shawn Springs and Ladell Betts

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This is the most recent trade I am hearing:

#6 pick overall and Shawn Springs and Ladell Betts

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Dre Bly Broncos 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders.
Never gonna happen. The Redskins would have too many picks for their own good. Snyder's head would explode before the Redskins ever have a full allotment of picks.
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I got this from kffl.com. I don't know why it's in blue.

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Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins and Denver Broncos are actively trying to work out a deal, with the Broncos seeking the No. 6 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft and the Redskins looking to acquire CB Dre' Bly. The Broncos tried to offer LB Al Wilson and a package of draft picks for the Redskins' high draft pick, but the deal fell through when the Redskins opted to sign LB London Fletcher-Baker instead of trading for Wilson. Also, the Redskins have offered CB Shawn Springs in a deal for Bly, but the Broncos are not willing to give the Redskins cap relief for the $7.5 million charge they would receive by trading Springs. With both teams still coveting their targets, and with Bly still reportedly looking to play in Washington, it is still possible for some kind of swap involving Bly and the Redskins' first-round pick to happen before the draft.
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i would have murdered shanahan if he'd traded away wilson. that's the stupidest trade i've ever heard our team legitimately discuss. i'm angry at the organization just for letting it get published.
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i would have murdered shanahan if he'd traded away wilson. that's the stupidest trade i've ever heard our team legitimately discuss. i'm angry at the organization just for letting it get published.
Don't listen to that article. I don't know how the Washington Post gets away with printed half the BS they do.
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Don't listen to that article. I don't know how the Washington Post gets away with printed half the BS they do.
How dare you insult Wilbon and Kornheiser.
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This is the most recent trade I am hearing:

#6 pick overall and Shawn Springs and Ladell Betts

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Who told you this and would it be both 3rd rounders.
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What if they packaged smoot and the 6th... That could work, even though smoot wouldn't be exactly the corner they'd want.
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Who told you this and would it be both 3rd rounders.
One of old college roomates works for comcast sportsnet as a research analyst and sends me e-mails when he recieves possible stories, this is one I heard reported. And it would be our 3rd rounder we would get not yours.
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As much as I jest, voicing my dislike for the Redskins' typical strategy, if they could do this I would actually like it. Accumulating picks is a sharp contrast to their usual modus operandi.
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odd ... where did LaCanfora mention that Al Wilson was involved? I've gone through his recent blogs and I didn't see it on a cursory glance.

And Jughead, I think LaCanfora is one of the better beat writers out there. A lot of things can be said about the Post (although personally, I think it's one of the best papers nationally, but different people, different strokes), but in regards to their Redskins beat writers, they've had some good ones in recent years, with Nunyo Demasio (now with SI I think) and now LaCanfora.
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Didnt they just re-sign Fred Smoot?

Smoot, Rogers, and Springs is no CB corps that deems a trade involving the #6 overall selection.
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Didnt they just re-sign Fred Smoot?

Smoot, Rogers, and Springs is no CB corps that deems a trade involving the #6 overall selection.
Well Springs is likely to be cut for Cap reasons and Beyond Smoot and Rogers there is no one, and Smoot should be playing Nickel.
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Everything that I have read on ESPN insider and other Network sites has the possible trade rumored to be this:

Denver gives #21, #56 and Dre Bly
Washington gives #6 and Ladell Betts

The stalling point ot the deal is Washington wants the Broncos 2nd round pick not a third. Denver countered back with they will include #56 but Washington must add in Ladell Betts.

Both sides seem pretty serious about getting a deal done so I would not be surprised to see something go through within the next couple days.

Personally I really dont see the need for Denver to get anxious about trading, the have the leverage, IMO. Washington is the one who wants Bly and will probably pay for it. IMO Denver should keep Bly and the picks. It would be a good deal for Washington if they can then move Shaun Springs for a day 1 pick., maybe 3rd round but I think his value is more a 4th.
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Basicly, the way i see it, were getting the #6 pick for our first and second, which isnt bad.

Ladell Betts for Dre Bly in itself? Meh, Maybe the Skins would get teh better deal there, but Bly wants out. so w/e
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Wow that would be a great steal for the Skins IMO especially if you can toss Springs in there, not sure why Denver wants a RB so bad after getting Henry and having the ability to draft any RB and do well, but I heard the Broncos front office are in love with Betts for some reason.
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I know Ghettosermon isn't big on Ladell Betts, but Betts for Dre Bly, IMO, favors the Broncos. Betts is a young back without much treads on him, a guy who moves better than some Redskins fans give credit to, while also having the power to run over people. Now, without taking it too far, I am in no way saying Betts is a top level back, but he can be a very good back. Heck, I like him better than Travis Henry personally. Bly is a nice solid corner, but every visual indication seemed to be that Bly lost a little last year, and another year isn't going to help things.
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U R right Toon value wise the Broncos win it, but if somehow we can throw in Springs I do it right away as if we move Springs we get 7 mil cap relief, also I guess I got a little excited at the prospect of possibly having more than 1 day 1 pick. But if we did make this move obviously we would pray that Okoye falls to us but that's not happening and I'd love PWillie but with Fletcher you wonder that, so I open up to possibly taking a FS or Guard although we can probably take one if we had #56. There no doubt will be great passrushers available at #21.
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odd ... where did LaCanfora mention that Al Wilson was involved? I've gone through his recent blogs and I didn't see it on a cursory glance.

And Jughead, I think LaCanfora is one of the better beat writers out there. A lot of things can be said about the Post (although personally, I think it's one of the best papers nationally, but different people, different strokes), but in regards to their Redskins beat writers, they've had some good ones in recent years, with Nunyo Demasio (now with SI I think) and now LaCanfora.
As far as covering the actual team through training camp and the season the Post is very good, it just seems like at this time of year they will make up whatever rumor they can to sell papers.
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I dunno. I forget how Nunyo was in the offseason, but from what I've seen of LaCanfora since he's taken over, he's been a fairly straight shooter. Especially now that every writer has a blog, and is given more freedom on the blogs by the papers itself. I mean, the nature of the beast is that the beat writers need to suck up to the organization, but overall, I think LaCanfora does a solid job with the offseason.

But eh, not a big deal. It'll be interesting if they can work something out.
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Good lord, the Broncos aren't desperate. If a trade goes down for the #6 pick, it will only invole 2 first day picks for the Broncos, their 1st obviously and most likely their 3rd round pick, maybe 2nd.
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Trade Value
6.......... 1,600


21.......... 800
56.......... 340
...............1140

their 1st and 2nd only covers 1140 of the 1600 "points"
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And the Broncos take a dump on the Skins chest, what else is new?
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