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Old 04-09-2009, 01:39 PM    (permalink
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I think we can all agree that Quaterback is the most important position in the game of football. So that brings me to the thought, how many teams are actually set at QB?
Heres a list of every team and who they have at QB.

I bolded the teams that I think have there guy and are set for the future and

The guys in italics are the ones that are still good quaterbacks and will do enough to win games but aren't the longterm answer for there respective teams.

I underlined the youngers QB's who still have the jury out on them, they have the potential but haven't put it all together yet. And for the ones that aren't in any font just suck for are too old.

Buffalo Bills - Trent Edwards
Miami Dolphins - Chad Pennington
New York Jets - Kellen Clemens/Brett Ratliff
New England Patriots - Tom Brady
Baltimore Ravens - Joe Flacco
Cincinnatti Bengals - Carson Palmer
Cleveland Browns - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
Pittsburgh Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger
Houston Texans - Matt Schaub
Indianapolis Colts - Peyton Manning
Jacksonville Jaguars - David Garrarrd
Tennessee Titans - Kerry Collins
Denver Broncos - Kyle Orton/Chris Simms
Kansas City Chiefs - Matt Cassel
Oakland Raiders - Jamarcus Russell
San Deigo Chargers - Phillip Rivers
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New York Giants - Eli Manning
Dallas Cowboys - Tony Romo
Philedelphia Eagles - Donovan McNabb
Washington Redskins - Jason Campbell
Chicago Bears - Jay Cutler
Detroit Lions - Daunte Cullpeper
Green Bay Packers - Aaron Rodgers
Minnesota Vikings - Tarvaris Jackson/Sage Roesnfels
Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan
Carolina Panthers - Jake Delhomme
New Orleans Saints - Drew Brees
Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Luke McCown
Arizona Cardnails - Kurt Warner
St. Louis Rams - Marc Bulger
San Francisco 49ers - Shaun Hill/Alex Smith
Seattle Seahawks - Matt Hasselbeck
So heres my list of the current franchise QB's in the game right now
Trent Edwards
Tom Brady
Joe Flacco
Carson Palmer
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Schaub
Phillip Rivers
Eli Manning
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Jay Cutler
What are your thoughts? You don't have to re-write the whole list, just list your franchise QB's.
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You seriously don't think Peyton Manning is a franchise QB?
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Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Ben Roethlisberger
Phillip Rivers
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning

I only think they are franchise QB's for me the rest havent done enough to prove that the franchise needs them to be successful
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You seriously don't think Peyton Manning is a franchise QB?
I can't speak for him, but perhaps he was thinking that Manning doesn't have many seasons left.
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he's 33 he has at least 5 seasons left

disagree with Shaub and Edwards
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Well he is still one of the better QB's in the leauge, arguably top 2, but with the loss of Dungy and Harrison and him having a slow start last year, plus he's 33 so I could see him slowly start to decline. One thing is for sure, the Colts should soon start to groom his replacement.
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he's 33 he has at least 5 seasons left

disagree with Shaub and Edwards
I'd take Peyton at 33 over Tom Brady at 31 who is coming off of a MAJOR injury
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Drew Brees
Peyton Manning

I only think they are franchise QB's for me the rest havent done enough to prove that the franchise needs them to be successful
Does eli have to orchestrate 4th quarter comebacks every week of the season en route to another superbowl to make that list?
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Does eli have to orchestrate 4th quarter comebacks every week of the season en route to another superbowl to make that list?
i just think that the team is talented enough without him to perform, for me he isnt the be all and end all of the franchise...come to think of it i only really consider peyton manning an irreplacable QB
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But the jury is still out on the futurezzz JDB.
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theres no jury out on him everyone quietly knows he is jim sorgi's understudy
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very true, but Jackson doesn't need to "play" like a franchise QB. He's on a loaded team with a great defense and top 3 run game. All he has to do is manage the offense, make smart throws, and most importantly, not turn the ball over. If he can do the little things, they will easily win more games.
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What makes Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan and Matt Cassel all franchise qbs or questions? They only have one year of starting. Does that mean they are a question or not frnachise. I think for players with only one year of starting experience means the jury is still out.
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I disagree with Edwards he should at the very most just be underlined.

Schaub isn't and never will be a franchise QB, he will a pretty good one, but one injured at least 2 weeks a season.

I want to see another year of Flacco before I label a franchise QB.

P.S Even if Peyton if 33, how the hell is he not a franchise QB, Favre has lasted till he was 39, Peyton is en route to break Favre's consecutive games played streak and he is still at the top of his game. So I truly don't get how he isn't a franchise QB.
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What makes Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan and Matt Cassel all franchise qbs or questions? They only have one year of starting. Does that mean they are a question or not frnachise. I think for players with only one year of starting experience means the jury is still out.
I totally agree. Everyone is so sold on Matt Ryan. Yeah he had one amazing year, but its only been one year! Wait till the rest of the NFL has even more film on him.
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Well he is still one of the better QB's in the leauge, arguably top 2, but with the loss of Dungy and Harrison and him having a slow start last year, plus he's 33 so I could see him slowly start to decline. One thing is for sure, the Colts should soon start to groom his replacement.



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Yeah, like most people have said, Peyton is the epitome of a franchise QB. And Trent Edwards is far from a sure thing. I thought most Bills fans weren't very kind in their praise of him lately?

My franchise QBs would be:

Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Jay Cutler
Philip Rivers
Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Big Ben
Donovan McNabb

I'd put Rodgers, Quinn, Ryan, Flacco, Cassel, Edwards, Romo and Russel as up and coming QBs who can potentially be the future for their teams.

I'm sure I left someone off but meh.
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So the MVP of the whole NFL from last year is not a "Franchise" QB any more?
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Yeah, like most people have said, Peyton is the epitome of a franchise QB. And Trent Edwards is far from a sure thing. I thought most Bills fans weren't very kind in their praise of him lately?

My franchise QBs would be:

Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Jay Cutler
Philip Rivers
Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Big Ben
Donovan McNabb

I'd put Rodgers, Quinn, Ryan, Flacco, Cassel, Edwards, Romo and Russel as up and coming QBs who can potentially be the future for their teams.

I'm sure I left someone off but meh.
Trent wasn't the same after his concussion, he seemed a lot more flustered and to be rushing. If he can get back to the guy before that injury I think he can be a franchise QB, not an Elite QB but a guy who can lead a good team.

As for Eli not being irreplaceable, his understanding of the offense and ability to drive us down the field whenever we need a score make him irreplaceable to us, sure we'd rather have Peyton or Brady, but if you replaced eli with a league average starting QB we'd barely be a playoff contender, with eli we're a superbowl contender.
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Trent wasn't the same after his concussion, he seemed a lot more flustered and to be rushing. If he can get back to the guy before that injury I think he can be a franchise QB, not an Elite QB but a guy who can lead a good team.

As for Eli not being irreplaceable, his understanding of the offense and ability to drive us down the field whenever we need a score make him irreplaceable to us, sure we'd rather have Peyton or Brady, but if you replaced eli with a league average starting QB we'd barely be a playoff contender, with eli we're a superbowl contender.
Eli has come along way from being the inconsistent QB he once was. He has definitely settled down, from the 24 TDs 24 INT guy he used to be, don't quote me on exact totals but I believe last year he had 23 TDs and 10 INTs if he can put that up for the rest of his career I'll be just fine calling Eli a franchise QB.
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