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Old 11-24-2009, 10:46 AM    (permalink
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For once Mark Purdy agrees with me, Smith isn't the answer at QB:

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers-headlines/ci_13848145

Everybody is jumping on the We Should've Drafted Rodgers Instead bandwagon now.... hell yes he was the better choice. Could've drafted him, but nooooooo.......
Why not going even farther back in the past and cry that the 49ers didn't draft Tom Brady instead of the combination of 5th and 7th rounders John Milem and Tim Rattay?
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Why not going even farther back in the past and cry that the 49ers didn't draft Tom Brady instead of the combination of 5th and 7th rounders John Milem and Tim Rattay?
Believe it or not there actually was a big faction wanting to draft Brady b/c he's local -- played at Serra HS in the Bay Area. I actually like him as an underrated college QB his sr. yr. with pinpoint passing precision b/c I watched him lead Michigan to a dbl-OT win over my Alabama team with its top 5 nationally ranked defense in a minor bowl game.

We could 2nd guess the many many drafting mistakes of the Donahue GM regime all day.

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Yeah Baas played center at Michigan, maybe he can replace Heitmann. Heitmann is declining badly, maybe he was a local draftee (Stanford) & an UDFA for a reason.

Wallace can play one guard spot. Somebody chk. this, hasn't Chilo Rachal been benched 2 wks. ago & still rides the pine?

For once Mark Purdy agrees with me, Smith isn't the answer at QB:

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers-headlines/ci_13848145

Everybody is jumping on the We Should've Drafted Rodgers Instead bandwagon now.... hell yes he was the better choice. Could've drafted him, but nooooooo.......
I don't know if Smith is the answer or not, but I do see a lot of talent, and I see a lot of talent that is beginning to become realized. He looks like a totally different player when he's in an offense that has an aggressive mentality (unfortunately it takes an entire half of being raped for our gameplan to change). Look, he's definitely done enough to get the rest of the games to show us something. Any article that is pinpointing Smith for that loss is a piece of sh!t article IMO, he's one of the last people that need to be blamed for that performance. The Defense? The O-line? The gameplanning? All of those factors are much more glaring right now, MUCH more.
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Based on what Coach Sing has been saying about Manny Lawson and Ahmad Brooks, I was wondering what some of you thought.

Do you think that the 49ers brass doesn't consider a 3-4 OLB as big of a need as most of us do?

If that's the case, what need do you think they believe the team needs outside of OL?
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Based on what Coach Sing has been saying about Manny Lawson and Ahmad Brooks, I was wondering what some of you thought.

Do you think that the 49ers brass doesn't consider a 3-4 OLB as big of a need as most of us do?

If that's the case, what need do you think they believe the team needs outside of OL?

I think they still consider a pass rusher a huge need, huge. It makes things so much easier on the D and the secondary if you don't have to blitz and can get there with 4 guys. I would be happy if we got a guy like Hughes. OL and Pass rush are the keys this offseason, Mcloughan has b!tched around with these two issues for too long.
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I think they still consider a pass rusher a huge need, huge. It makes things so much easier on the D and the secondary if you don't have to blitz and can get there with 4 guys. I would be happy if we got a guy like Hughes. OL and Pass rush are the keys this offseason, Mcloughan has b!tched around with these two issues for too long.
Your last thought plus Coach Sing saying he loves what he's seen out of Lawson and Brooks, makes me wonder.

Graham and Morgan are my favs at this point, followed by Hughes and Romeus.
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For once Mark Purdy agrees with me, Smith isn't the answer at QB:

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers-headlines/ci_13848145

Everybody is jumping on the We Should've Drafted Rodgers Instead bandwagon now.... hell yes he was the better choice. Could've drafted him, but nooooooo.......
Mark Purdy one week later:
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci...nclick_check=1

Think that is the fastest I have ever seen a columnist issue an apology.
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Mark Purdy one week later:
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci...nclick_check=1

Think that is the fastest I have ever seen a columnist issue an apology.
Classic example as to why jumping the gun on something is so foolish. I think he looks great, but let this guy play the year out and we can fully evaluate him then.
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Like I said I rarely if ever agreed with Purdy, sorry I linked him b/c he's a 2-bit local columnist. He's what the San Jose MercNews sports had left when Skip Bayliss skipped for greener pastures.

I still think that if Smith on his umpteenth avatar interation is the Answer, What is the Question ? No, Smith isn't the future of the franchise, that QB is playing college ball now
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Like I said I rarely if ever agreed with Purdy, sorry I linked him b/c he's a 2-bit local columnist. He's what the San Jose MercNews sports had left when Skip Bayliss skipped for greener pastures.

I still think that if Smith on his umpteenth avatar interation is the Answer, What is the Question ? No, Smith isn't the future of the franchise, that QB is playing college ball now
With the way he's playing right now under this offense, he's the man. You may not like it but its not our decision. I'm pretty sure Singletary is down with Smith right now
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I'm down with Smith too right now, and why I believe he's earned the right to keep the QB spot, I'm not yet convinced that he's the QB we need to go to the next level. I just hope the Niners don't do something silly such as giving Smith a big extension after this season, even if he finishes well. I think they'd maybe open the conversation and then if he goes into next year, playing well, further progressing, then he should be at a level worthy of locking him up long term.
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If Smith can finish games stronger, when the game is in his hands for a last final drive to win with little time on the clock, I'll become a believer. Not expecting a Montanalike Comeback Kid development, just stop those turnovers on high risk plays, & for God sake protect him better.
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If Smith can finish games stronger, when the game is in his hands for a last final drive to win with little time on the clock, I'll become a believer. Not expecting a Montanalike Comeback Kid development, just stop those turnovers on high risk plays, & for God sake protect him better.
He guided this team down the field twice in the clutch this game. You can't ask for more from Smith, you just can't. The guy was a stud today.
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Okay, we ALL know that Adam Snyder doesn't cut it as a RT but I'm looking at team needs and the Offensive Line has me perplexed.

Continuity is VERY important but you can't sacrifice success while "hoping" the line gels. Here is the current OL depth and I'm hoping for some suggestions as what should be done. My intention is not a "draft so-and-so in such-and-such round" but more of, who should the team retain, and should they start? what position? or are they just depth?

Here are the current 49er O-Linemen

LT - Joe Staley - Barry Sims
LG - David Baas - Tony Wragge
C - Eric Heitman - Cody Wallace
RG - Chilo Rachal
RT - Adam Snyder - Tony Pashos - Chris Patrick - Alex Boone - Kirk Barton

I'm only happy with Joe Staley as LT and Barry Sims as his backup. Rachal is still very young and at worst should be the first G backup. Alex Boone should be kept as a backup RT. Who's left

David Baas - FA next year. Is he worth keeping? Move him to Center?

Tony Wragge - cheap depth but if the team drafts a starter he will be expendable.

Eric Heitman - Has fallen very quickly. Gets not push in run game whatsoever. Too expensive to be a backup?

Cody Wallace - hasn't suited up ONE TIME. Good as gone.

Adam Snyder - His best role seems to be as a backup Guard. Too expensive for that role?

Tony Pashos - I don't see him accepting a backup role to the new draft pick

Chris Patrick - Really?

Kirk Barton - See Above


Wow, this could be a bad situation. I could see as many as 3 new starters needed.
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What about moving Snyder to LG to clear up RT for a rookie? And then spending another high pick on a C/G? I seriously doubt the Niners will have 3 new starters on the line next season. Heitman will probably get to start another year.
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Fun fact: we've lost 6 games by 1 score

Minnesota- 3 points
Houston- 3 points
Indianapolis- 4 points
Tennessee- 7 points
Green Bay- 3 points
Seattle- 3 points

4 games by one field goal, another 2 where we needed a TD to win or at least tie. Needless to say, hasn't been a fun season :(

On the flip side, i guess all the close losses show we're not that far away from contending.

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The sad part is that, if not for 1 or two plays in each game, we would have won a lot of those games.

Minnesota - The play goes without saying
Houston - Muffed punt at our own 10
Tennessee - Unlucky bounces on tipped passes
Seattle - Dropped passes

If we got some bounces our way, we would be 9-3.
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The sad part is that, if not for 1 or two plays in each game, we would have won a lot of those games.

Minnesota - The play goes without saying
Houston - Muffed punt at our own 10
Tennessee - Unlucky bounces on tipped passes
Seattle - Dropped passes

If we got some bounces our way, we would be 9-3.
See, I look at those games and I see games in which we definitely had the talent to win; for some reason in most of those games we played a half of football in a style that was detrimental to our success, or close to a half. Vs. Minn. we became satisfied with going 3 and out for some reason in the 2nd half. Vs. Houston we played the whole first half trying to run the I-form and failing miserably running it up the gut. Vs. Indy we played the 2nd half SUPER conservative and scared even though we had a lead; we seemed content to hold on to what, a 4 point lead? Green Bay was the freaking worst, what kind of strategy was that in the first half? That's not pro football gameplanning man. This is all strategy IMO, we have the talent, these games should be won earlier and not by placing our young players in such high pressure situations...that is no way to win.
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There is no doubt in my mind that this team would be on top of the division with a capable offensive coordinator.
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With all the $ & draft picks the team has it's worth discussing some prospects.

The modern NFL IMO is all about pass protection & pass defense. Consensus here seems to be we need OL help ASAP. Certainly a new center, maybe some changes in roles shuffling an OT & OG(s) too, we could in fact move everybody but Snyder. We've discussed Okung already, what do you think of Bryan Bulaga, Iowa, 6-6, 312-lb. jr. yet to declare?

Also that worrisome safety need that comes back again & again to bite the pass defense in the butt every time Lewis &/or Roman effs it up & costs TDs, what does the Faithful think of Nate Lewis, S, South Florida?

Edit: I'm only saying Lewis b/c I thin the team has to trade up to get Eric Berry, & cannot make do with Tay7lor Mays, I've always thought so

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With all the $ & draft picks the team has it's worth discussing some prospects.

The modern NFL IMO is all about pass protection & pass defense. Consensus here seems to be we need OL help ASAP. Certainly a new center, maybe some changes in roles shuffling an OT & OG(s) too, we could in fact move everybody but Snyder. We've discussed Okung already, what do you think of Bryan Bulaga, Iowa, 6-6, 312-lb. jr. yet to declare?

Also that worrisome safety need that comes back again & again to bite the pass defense in the butt every time Lewis &/or Roman effs it up & costs TDs, what does the Faithful think of Nate Lewis, S, South Florida?
OL, Pass Rush, Safety. Pass rush and Oline are key IMO, we've failed to address these issues for so many years now.
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My dream is: Eric Berry is one pick and an elite OT is the other. In all likely hood, it'll be an OT and OLB/CB, in the first round.

If they spent a first and a second on the o-line, it'd be fine with that. Get some ******* depth, Scot.
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There is no doubt in my mind that this team would be on top of the division with a capable offensive coordinator.
I'm not certain the problem is solely that of Raye. Sure his overall gameplan can be improved but the changes he and Mike Johnson have made are very notable. Perhaps Coach Singletary was a bit too stubborn in his philosophy to initially accept change. He seems to be more compromising of late.
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