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Old 08-27-2012, 01:32 AM    (permalink
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Whitner said the same thing after HOU beat SF 30-7 last preseason, about no gameplanning. At the time people thought he was making excuses but we were 10x better in the regular season. So i believe him.
He did? I don't remember that quote. By the way maybe Tolzein should be the automatic starter then haha.
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It still amazes me how ppl over-react to preseason. CHILL THE **** OUT. Our issues today were simply execution. Even if we are playing vanilla, we still need to execute, which we didn't at times. And that's what Jimbaugh is mad at. He can forgive being out-schemed....because we never gameplan in the pre-season. What he can't forgive is missed blocks, missed tackles, blown assignments, guys not being lined up properly, bad QB/C exchanges, bad replacement refs screwing with his offensive tempo, things that are preventable because they work on them everyday. That's the stuff he'll clean up for the Packers.

As far as the defense, I'm really not worried about that unit. Even the blitzes we sent were basic A-gap blitzes. Very vanilla stuff from that unit. Like I said, the missed tackles were a little alarming but when the lights come on, guys on that side of the ball will perform. We haven't played one preseason defensive snap with all 11 defensive starters on the field. People have to understand preseason is more of a evaluation tool. It's not set-up for teams to win, its more a attempt to see how players respond and react to different scenarios. It's just a slight extension of TC, just that you going against a different colored jersey
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By the way this was hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing about this comment directed towards me when I went to the gym later.

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He did? I don't remember that quote. By the way maybe Tolzein should be the automatic starter then haha.
Yep. Quote during the 30-7 Week 3 loss to the Texans last preseason.

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Right, but not gameplanning and missing tackles, being out of position, screwing up fundamentals are two different things. Harbaugh needs to clean that up.
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Rewatching the game. On the second touchdown pass that Decker caught, Goldson could have helped Brock, but basically stood there. He could have shifted over.
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By the way, this was our play of the day. Beautiful throw.

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He did? I don't remember that quote. By the way maybe Tolzein should be the automatic starter then haha.
Ness don't become the King of taking things out of context.

Whitner mentioned that Tolzien played extremely well against the Vikings. Saying "he played about as well as anyone can out there, he was like a baby Brees."

Singular comment on a singular moment. If you'll remember, Tolzien looked ridiculously good that game. Don't bash Whitner for it now.

Then again, the media deserves a large chunk of blame for clouding the context from the jump.
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By the way, this was our play of the day. Beautiful throw.

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49ers make 14 roster moves to get down to 75 players

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OL Jason Slowey (sixth-round pick), LB Kourtnei Brown, FB Cameron Bell, WR Joe Hastings, WR Brian Tyms, WR Ben Hannula, S Cory Nelms, K Giorgio Tavecchio, DL Matt Masifilo, CB Deante Purvis, TE Joe Sawyer, DL Patrick Butrym, LB Darius Fleming (reserve/PUP), RB Jewel Hampton (reserve/non-football injury)
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Biggest name is Slowey, the 6th rounder. Drafted in the 6th and didn't even make it past the first round of cuts.

Other than that, meh.
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I thought Slowey and Brown would make it further. In Harbaalke I trust.
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Palmer and Owusu are still alive!
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One of them can make the practice squad.
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According to his latest PC, Fangio isn't worried about the overall D, although he was concerned with some technique issues and 1 on 1 matchups of course.

He also seem concerned about his backup Safeties. He said none of them have jumped out, which includes 6th round pick Robinson, Thomas, Jones, Spillman, and McBath. Seems like Spillman is the only guy assured of a spot at the S position because he's a standout STer/new contract.

Personally, i think we're relatively deep across the roster...except at S and maybe OLB.
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In a glass have full kind of view, if a rookie 5th round pick and rookie UDFA are holding their own and are right there with guys who have been in the league a couple of years, I suspect that's a good thing and I would honestly go with youth in this instance. So Spillman, Robinson, and Thomas would suit me jus fine as guys behind the starters. I think both Robinson and Thomas have a ton of talent, just no experience. I think Thomas could be gem in a couple years. That cover FS type, that can drop down and cover the slot is something rare and would be highly coveted in this pass-happy league we're in.
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My final 53 player roster -

QB / 3 - Smith, Kapernick, Johnson
RB / 7 - Gore, Jacobs, Hunter, James
FB / 9 - Miller, Cartwright
WR / 15 - Moss, Crabtree, Manningham, Williams, Jenkins, Ginn
TE / 17 - Davis, Walker
C / 19 - Goodwin, Kilgore
OG / 22 - Iupati, Boone, Looney
OT / 25 - Staley, Davis, Person

DE / 29 - Smith, McDonald, Dobbs, Tukuafu
DT / 32 - Sopoaga, Jean-Francois, Williams
OLB / 36 - Smith, Brooks, Haralson, Bakhtiari
ILB / 40 - Willis, Bowman, Grant, Gooden
CB / 45 - Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Brock, Cox
SS / 48 - Whitner, Spillman, Thomas
FS / 50 - Goldson, Robinson

K / 51 - Akers
P / 52 - Lee
LS / 53 - Jennings
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QB / 3 - Smith, Kapernick, Johnson
RB / 7 - Gore, Jacobs, Hunter, James
FB / 9 - Miller, Cartwright
WR / 15 - Moss, Crabtree, Manningham, Williams, Jenkins, Ginn
TE / 17 - Davis, Walker
C / 19 - Goodwin, Kilgore
OG / 22 - Iupati, Boone, Looney
OT / 25 - Staley, Davis, Person

DE / 29 - Smith, McDonald, Dobbs, Tukuafu
DT / 32 - Sopoaga, Jean-Francois, Williams
OLB / 36 - Smith, Brooks, Haralson, Bakhtiari
ILB / 40 - Willis, Bowman, Grant, Gooden
CB / 45 - Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Brock, Cox
SS / 48 - Whitner, Spillman, Thomas
FS / 50 - Goldson, Robinson

K / 51 - Akers
P / 52 - Lee
LS / 53 - Jennings
Looks good. The only ones I would say are a toss up are : I. Williams, Bakhtiari, Thomas, and Robinson. I could see one of these guys being dropped for another LB and/or another player at their position
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Wasn't a big fan of the Jenkins pick but he has impressed the hell out of me the past 3 games. If Ginn is out, I hope he is active and gets some rotational snaps. Looks silky smooth out there.
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Looks good. The only ones I would say are a toss up are : I. Williams, Bakhtiari, Thomas, and Robinson. I could see one of these guys being dropped for another LB and/or another player at their position
I'll be shocked if Williams doesnt make the final 53. He's only in his second year and the only NT under contract beyond 2012. From what I have read, Bakhtiari, has played well and we need a 4th OLB. Dont know who else would win that spot besides him. I put Robinson and Thomas on the list because I dont think that they'll make it to the PS.

Excluding Williams, I can see the others being released after today if we pick up other players off waivers.

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Wasn't a big fan of the Jenkins pick but he has impressed the hell out of me the past 3 games. If Ginn is out, I hope he is active and gets some rotational snaps. Looks silky smooth out there.
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I'll be shocked if Williams doesnt make the final 53. He's only in his second year and the only NT under contract beyond 2012. From what I have read, Bakhtiari, has played well and we need a 4th OLB. Dont know who else would win that spot besides him. I put Robinson and Thomas on the list because I dont think that they'll make it to the PS.

Excluding Williams, I can see the others being released after today if we pick up other players off waivers.
4th OLB... Health permitting... Demarcus Dobbs.
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4th OLB... Health permitting... Demarcus Dobbs.
Isnt Dobbs our main backup at DE?
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Isnt Dobbs our main backup at DE?
RJF as well. Position versatility. The 4th OLB will only be needed in one of the top-3 gets injured.
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My Final-53 prediction (not accounting for FA signings)


Offense (26)

QB (3) - Alex Smith | Colin Kaepernick | Josh Johnson
RB (4) - Frank Gore | Kendall Hunter | Brandon Jacobs | LaMichael James
FB (2) - Bruce Miller | Anthony Dixon (RB)
WR (6) - Michael Crabtree | Randy Moss | Mario Manningham | Ted Ginn | Kyle Williams | A.J. Jenkins
TE (2) - Vernon Davis | Delanie Walker
OT (3) - Joe Staley | Anthony Davis | Mike Person
OG (4) - Mike Iupati | Alex Boone (OT) | Leonard Davis | Joe Looney
C (2) - Jonathan Goodwin | Daniel Kilgore (OG)



Defense (24)

DE (4) - Justin Smith | Ray McDonald | Demarcus Dobbs (TE/OLB) | Will Tukuafu (FB)
NT (3) - Isaac Sopoaga | Ricky Jean Francois (DE) | Ian Williams
OLB (3) - Aldon Smith | Ahmad Brooks | Parys Haralson
ILB (4) - Patrick Willis | NaVorro Bowman | Larry Grant | Tavares Gooden
CB (5) - Tarell Brown | Carlos Rogers | Chris Culliver | Perrish Cox | Tramaine Brock
S (5) - Dashon Goldson | Donte Whitner | C.J. Spillman | Trent Robinson | Colin Jones



Special Teams (3)

K - David Akers
P - Andy Lee
LS - Brian Jennings



Fringe

Josh Johnson
Scott Tolzien
Rock Cartwright
Konrad Reuland

Mike Person
Leonard Davis
Ian Williams
Eric Bakhtiari
Trent Robinson
Colin Jones
Darcel McBath
Michael Thomas


12 or more guys fighting for the last 5 or so spots.


Player that deserves to make the team but won't...

Brett Swain


Player that doesn't deserve to make the team but will...

Mike Person
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