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Old 04-18-2009, 08:49 PM    (permalink
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did u also hear about his problems with drugs and hookers and with weapons?
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did u also hear about his problems with drugs and hookers and with weapons?
I think he was talking about the last Bears QB with drinking problems.









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Orton doesn't have diabetes though. I'm pretty sure that Jay knows what he's doing and he can monitor his diabetes just fine. But it's not just some random messageboard that states this, I believe even guys like Colin Cowherd expressed concerns for Jay's night life due to his condition.

Really, what's going to be fun to see is if Jay will deal with the Chicago media the way he dealt with Denver's. Because he sure as heck is going to get rip in half if he does the same thing.
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Orton doesn't have diabetes though. I'm pretty sure that Jay knows what he's doing and he can monitor his diabetes just fine. But it's not just some random messageboard that states this, I believe even guys like Colin Cowherd expressed concerns for Jay's night life due to his condition.

Really, what's going to be fun to see is if Jay will deal with the Chicago media the way he dealt with Denver's. Because he sure as heck is going to get rip in half if he does the same thing.
You have, by my count, over 15 posts in this thread. Almost all of them bashing Cutler in one form or another. I'd say the emperor has no clothes.
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Xenos is no fan of Cutler, I am on the Orangemane and he has never had much positive to say about the young QB.
And on the Orangemane, those are all rumors from posters. The whole team played awful against Oakland anyways.
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You have, by my count, over 15 posts in this thread. Almost all of them bashing Cutler in one form or another. I'd say the emperor has no clothes.
Of course I hate Cutler. I'm a Charger fan and I think he's a loser in the vein of Jeff George. Which is why I feel kinda bad for the Bears because they're expecting this savior, but instead could get someone who could just as easily implode as Cade McKnown. The sad thing is that I liked him up until the Christmas game in 2007 when he started that whole incident with Rivers.

Edit: really I only 15 posts? I thought I had more than that...

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Xenos is no fan of Cutler, I am on the Orangemane and he has never had much positive to say about the young QB.
And on the Orangemane, those are all rumors from posters. The whole team played awful against Oakland anyways.
You have me confused with 400Hz or someone else. I rarely say anything negative about Cutler there.
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I suppose you could look at my rant as my sadness that he's leaving the division. Denver got some good picks and could do some damage with them now because they traded Cutler away.

I hope he plays horribly but that the Bears go 16-0 and Denver gets a really low 1st round pick next year.

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What has he done that Derek Anderson didn't do prior to last season? Anderson almost led the Browns to the playoffs (like Cutler), had a Pro Bowl season (like Cutler), and was the beneficiary of a high-powered and explosive offense (like Cutler). They're even similar in age... and look how DA turned out.
DA had a great year then struggled like the whole offense did. I'm not saying hes as good as he played in 2007, I'm saying how can you say "Look how he turned out" when he's had a good year and a bad year, you can't just a career off two seasons.

As for Cutler hes amazing and your comparison to Anderson is *EDIT* completely wrong.

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Of course I hate Cutler. I'm a Charger fan and I think he's a loser in the vein of Jeff George. Which is why I feel kinda bad for the Bears because they're expecting this savior, but instead could get someone who could just as easily implode as Cade McKnown. The sad thing is that I liked him up until the Christmas game in 2007 when he started that whole incident with Rivers.

Edit: really I only 15 posts? I thought I had more than that...
That's fine, but to any objective person you just look irrational and silly. Your agenda reeks of bias. I mean, Cade McNown? Are you ******* serious? Get a grip dude.
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:36 AM    (permalink
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That's fine, but to any objective person you just look irrational and silly. Your agenda reeks of bias. I mean, Cade McNown? Are you ******* serious? Get a grip dude.
That's fair that you are excited about him. People are in love with his tools. He has also gotten progressively gotten better each season statistically. I just find it odd that people keep making these excuses for him.

Here's a rational argument:
1) He has Ron Turner as his OC
2) That Chicago oline is not as good as Denver's.
3) The current Bears defense needs help as well which will put even more pressure on him to well. I just don't think he has it in him.
4) He doesn't have the weapons like he did with Denver. Forte and Olson are very solid players though. But currently (I say currently because things could happen with the offense) I think he'll have a down year.
5) He did not handle the media in Denver well during a loss. I just think it'll be one of his undoing in Chicago. He just shows his disdain and contempt too easily when dealing with reporters. You have to have the poker face especially when you're the face of the franchise. How he deals with the pressure from the media and the sport fans will be very telling this year. If he manages to do it well as well as learn to control his gunslinging then I would be wrong about him.

Nonrational rant:
I just think he's a loser and has that mentality since he's been losing since high school. The fact that he couldn't even win one game in that last stretch is kinda telling to me. It just tells me that he can't get it done when the team needs him to especially during big games.
Perhaps, one of the reasons why I don't think he'll be a great QB is due to his inconsistency. He can make those great OMG plays and then the next do something completely idiotic ie. the first Denver/San Diego game where he was terrific in the first half and then started to collapse in the second with a key interception in the endzone and then "fumbling" near the endzone.
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he just hates Jay cause he was playing for the broncos
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I think it'd be funnier with Rex Grossman. lol.
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THANK you, finally someone understands what I'm trying to say. You hit the nail on the head, maybe it'll illustrate the point better to others than I was able to.
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If Cutler wasn't drafted in the 1st round a few years back, I doubt this would be as big news. It seems to add to the glamor.
That and as it has been pointed out, Cutler progressed. DA didn't.
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