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Old 04-17-2009, 03:25 PM    (permalink
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Oher won't be there at 11, SF wants him. I think 4 OTs going in the top 10 means the Bills' OLine will be SOL.
If they want him that bad I'm sure they could work out a deal with the Jags at #8 the don't need to panic and move up to the top five IMO.
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Peters is a huuuge upgrade over Thomas in the run game, but he may be just as much of a downgrade in the pass game.
Not so, Peters in 07 was a monster, and if he can stay motivated, which he should here, especially with Juan Castillo. Expect a big year from him.
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Petti is not making it past the Falcons.
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Not so, Peters in 07 was a monster, and if he can stay motivated, which he should here, especially with Juan Castillo. Expect a big year from him.
It could be motivation, or it could be that he missed the entire off-season program, workouts, and pre-season, and strapped it up for the regular season in off-season form.
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McShay is such a ******* idiot....

Kiper just got done saying about how the Eagles should use their remaining first on Pettigrew to be the blocker to go with the receiver in Celek "who we all know can catch," and then McShay says that they shouldn't take a blocking TE because they need a guy who can catch.....

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Kiper just got done saying about how the Eagles should use their remaining first on Pettigrew to be the blocker to go with the receiver in Celek "who we all know can catch," and then McShay says that they shouldn't take a blocking TE because they need a guy who can catch.....

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I'm not a huge Peters fan.

I think he should play LG.
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Ugh.
I love Pettigrew, but with only one 1st rounder now, I'd much rather go after a RB.
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I'm not a huge Peters fan.

I think he should play LG.
why? thats a ridiculously stupid statement. You dont put possibly the most gifted OT in the league at OG.....I would love to hear your evaluation.

btw, peters (so long as he shows last year wasnt just a blip) isnt a downgrade in any form to tra thomas........even if he plays like last year he is better imo.
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why? thats a ridiculously stupid statement. You dont put possibly the most gifted OT in the league at OG.....I would love to hear your evaluation.

btw, peters (so long as he shows last year wasnt just a blip) isnt a downgrade in any form to tra thomas........even if he plays like last year he is better imo.
I agree. Peters upside is that he could be the best LT in the game
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Also.....dont assume the Bills are going OT early. The staff loves Demetrius Bell (who is insanely athletic and reminds me a lot of peters). He may be ready to step in at RT and Walker looked pretty solid at LT last year. I feel Langston Walker is pretty underrated.....I will admit I hated the huge contract we gave him, but he has been pretty sweet.
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Also.....dont assume the Bills are going OT early. The staff loves Demetrius Bell (who is insanely athletic and reminds me a lot of peters). He may be ready to step in at RT and Walker looked pretty solid at LT last year. I feel Langston Walker is pretty underrated.....I will admit I hated the huge contract we gave him, but he has been pretty sweet.
When they drafted him I thought the same thing. Many smiliarities to Peters jsut a bit more raw. He is a project still at least one more year way but I liked him alot when they drafted him.
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why? thats a ridiculously stupid statement. You dont put possibly the most gifted OT in the league at OG.....I would love to hear your evaluation.

btw, peters (so long as he shows last year wasnt just a blip) isnt a downgrade in any form to tra thomas........even if he plays like last year he is better imo.
Most gifted OT in the league?

WHAT?

Not a chance.

I don't like Peters history with being lazy, unmotivated, and taking a whole year off (and holding out) because he couldn't get paid off of production for ONE season.
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I agree. Peters upside is that he could be the best LT in the game
Peters upside is pro-bowl possibly all-pro. He is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.
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Peters upside is pro-bowl possibly all-pro. He is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.
Do you realize how stupid that sounds? All-Pro = #1 LT in the game.
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Peters upside is pro-bowl possibly all-pro. He is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.
he was damn close 2 years ago.......and if you were getting one fourth of what you deserved in salary, I think you may have held out too.
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Do you realize how stupid that sounds? All-Pro = #1 LT in the game.
I think he has proven his vast knowledge........
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he was damn close 2 years ago.......and if you were getting one fourth of what you deserved in salary, I think you may have held out too.
I might have held out, but I wouldn't take plays off when it mattered.

I wouldn't let my QB get sacked 12 times when it was like 1 1/2 times the year before.

Not showing a whole lot of leadership and team mentality.

I think I would also take Clady, Thomas, McNeil, J. Long, and Gaither probably before Peters.
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he was damn close 2 years ago.......and if you were getting one fourth of what you deserved in salary, I think you may have held out too.
I left the door open by saying possibly, which means in the future.

You guys are annoiting him #1 LT in the present which he is not.
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I might have held out, but I wouldn't take plays off when it mattered.

I wouldn't let my QB get sacked 12 times when it was like 1 1/2 times the year before.

Not showing a whole lot of leadership and team mentality.

I think I would also take Clady, Thomas, McNeil, J. Long, and Gaither probably before Peters.
Hold out leads to missing all offseason workouts.....chemistry is key for an OL....all that stuff adds up.....expecting him to be as good is crazy. Maybe he looked like he took plays off because he wasnt in football shape and was sucking wind.......he was playing pretty well towards the end of the year when he had practices under his belt.
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I left the door open by saying possibly, which means in the future.

You guys are annoiting him #1 LT in the present which he is not.

who said that?

and you also didnt leave the door open, you said he is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.

But this also brings me to your original argument, why the hell would u move a potential all pro to OG? Thats just dumb.
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I left the door open by saying possibly, which means in the future.

You guys are annoiting him #1 LT in the present which he is not.
I'm not saying he is, I was just saying what you said sounded dumb because the all-pro at any position is usually the best player in the league at said position (that year). I think if he plays like he did in 07, he's a top 3 LT, if he plays like he did in 08, he might not even be top 10.
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I agree with the previous comment that Oher won't last till 11. The Packers pick seems like a prime spot for someone to leapfrog San Fran and Buffalo for him. In my mock I had Washington doing so.
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All this Jason Peters talk about him being the best LT in the league. . . .

Please don't give this forum THAT kind of reputation. Heck,
I'd even take a 3rd year guy like Joe Thomas over Peters any day of the week.
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All this Jason Peters talk about him being the best LT in the league. . . .

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I'd even take a 3rd year guy like Joe Thomas over Peters any day of the week.
no one said that. i said he has the potential to be..but so don't 5-8 OTs
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