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Old 04-17-2009, 06:42 PM    (permalink
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Question Pre-Draft Super Bowl Odds

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Drop the cowboys, raise the Dolphins, raise the Bengals, drop the Broncos.

The Bengals on the same level with the Raiders surprises me. They are not that far from being a dangerous team.


Drop the Lions :P
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Ouch. We sure sucked last year but they could at least give us some credit, we are getting our franchise QB back.

The Cowboys are so high because I'm sure with the amount of fans they have, they get more bets so they have to increase the odds.
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Why are the saints at better odds than the Falcons or Panthers?
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I would honestly say drop the Panthers down. There's been no improvement at all this off-season due to the strangle hold on the team because of the situation with Julius Peppers. If anything, they're a worse team at this point than they were last year.
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So your telling me there's a chance?
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Why are the Patriots #1? No major off season acquisitions. They get Brady back, but they had good QB play last year as well and now their starter is coming off major surgery.
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There are a few teams too high based purely off of their chances of winning the superbowl. Based purely off of that, the Pats, Cowboys, Saints, and Falcons are too high, IMO. Even the Steelers are too high, based purely off of the fact that it is nearly impossible to repeat nowadays, though as a team, they should be #1 IMO. There are a few teams that should be higher, personally I think the chargers could be even higher, there are some others as well. But when you take into account fanbase, this list isn't really surprising at all, and teams are roughly where I would've expected.
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I agree, Cowboys should really drop.
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Bucs, Broncos, and Jags should all be somewhere below the Dolphins.
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The Dolphins are low because of their tough schedule, or at least that plays a major part in it.
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I would honestly say drop the Panthers down. There's been no improvement at all this off-season due to the strangle hold on the team because of the situation with Julius Peppers. If anything, they're a worse team at this point than they were last year.
As of right now they're the same team they were a year ago minus Ken Lucas. There's no reason to drop the Panthers at all, if anything they should be switched with the saints, who should then be switched with the falcons.
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As of right now they're the same team they were a year ago minus Ken Lucas. There's no reason to drop the Panthers at all, if anything they should be switched with the saints, who should then be switched with the falcons.
Wow. You really don't keep up. The Panthers lost:

* Their top three O-line reserves (Hangartner, Bridges, Omiyale) which all played in at least 10 games last year while compiling 13 starts between them
* A starting corner which at worst leaves them with no nickelback due to Marshall's promotion to the starting lineup (please, don't mention Dante Wesley)
* A veteran longsnapper, and before you poop on this one, stop and think about how many longsnappers you can name..likely the ones you can name is because of blunders which Kyle never had
* The best return guy that the team has had since Steve Smith stopped returning kicks (no, I'm not comparing him to Steve Smith but he was the most consistent the team has had since Smith stopped doing returns)

But yet you think it's "the same team minus Ken Lucas"? Please.

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Why are the Patriots #1? No major off season acquisitions. They get Brady back, but they had good QB play last year as well and now their starter is coming off major surgery.
they're a dynasty, been the favorite several years in a row now.
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Raiders shouldnt be 3rd IMO. No, they arnt going to win the superbowl, but Im sure we are better then the what that says. We looked like a decent team at the end of the year and with upgrades along the oline and resigning of Aso we should be like 6 or 7 for now. Plus we are likely to get a impact player with #7 and #40
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Why are the Patriots #1? No major off season acquisitions. They get Brady back, but they had good QB play last year as well and now their starter is coming off major surgery.
Fred Taylor, Leigh Bodden, Shawn Springs, Tom Brady coming back healthy, 4 first day draft picks, 6 picks in the top 100. And thats a team that went 11-5 last year with a guy who hadn't started a QB since high school(enter Tom Brady), a leaky secondary(enter Bodden and Springs plus I would guess at least one first day pick) and no pass rush(once again there are draft picks for that). I would say the Patriots should be favourites with the Giants just slightly behind
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I'd like the odds on the packers and panthers if I were a betting man. Also think that pitt should be at 8-1 alongside new england. They basicly lost noone relevant (right??) and will only get stronger after the draft. Also it would be nice for their play to have an actual healthy runningback
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I'd like the odds on the packers and panthers if I were a betting man. Also think that pitt should be at 8-1 alongside new england. They basicly lost noone relevant (right??) and will only get stronger after the draft. Also it would be nice for their play to have an actual healthy runningback
True but they will have 5 starters in their front 7 over the age of 30 on opening day. Obviously they have to be counted as one of the preseason favourites but I like the Pats and Giants slightly better.

I think the Eagles would be the best value bet out of any team there
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I'd like the odds on the packers and panthers if I were a betting man. Also think that pitt should be at 8-1 alongside new england. They basicly lost noone relevant (right??) and will only get stronger after the draft. Also it would be nice for their play to have an actual healthy runningback
I saw on NFL network that the Panthers play 15 games against teams with winning records last year, and the only losing record they face is the Bills at 7-9. I know last years winning percentage doesn't count for much know, but when you are playing nothing but solid to great teams, that is tough. I personally think, with the last half of their season, it is going to be very tough for the Panthers to make the playoffs.
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I saw on NFL network that the Panthers play 15 games against teams with winning records last year, and the only losing record they face is the Bills at 7-9. I know last years winning percentage doesn't count for much know, but when you are playing nothing but solid to great teams, that is tough. I personally think, with the last half of their season, it is going to be very tough for the Panthers to make the playoffs.
jep the entire nfc south has an insainly tough scedule:
NFC South last year: Panthers(12-4), Falcons(11-5), Bucs(9-7)and Saints(8-8)
They obviously have to play all teams but themselves twice so that already makes six tough games.
NFC East last year: Giant(12-4) Eagles(9-6-1) Cowboys(9-7) Skins(8-8)
another tough game. Luckily they will be the prime contenders for the wild card spots and have a pretty tough scedule themselves.
AFC East last year: Dolphins(11-5) Patriots(11-5) Jets(9-7) Bills(7-9)

Last two games:
Panthers: Vikings(10-6) and Cardinals(9-7)
Falcons: Bears(9-7) and 49ers(7-9)
Bucs: Packers(6-10) and Seahawks(4-12)
Saints Li:)ns(0-16) and Rams(2-14)

Luckily my saints have those last two but for the rest life is gonna be rough. At least our main opponents play the AFC west to make there scedule tough as well (oh wait the afc west blows major donkey dick and rivals the nfc west for worst division despite the Lions efford to get the NFC north in there)
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Wow. You really don't keep up. The Panthers lost:

* Their top three O-line reserves (Hangartner, Bridges, Omiyale) which all played in at least 10 games last year while compiling 13 starts between them
* A starting corner which at worst leaves them with no nickelback due to Marshall's promotion to the starting lineup (please, don't mention Dante Wesley)
* A veteran longsnapper, and before you poop on this one, stop and think about how many longsnappers you can name..likely the ones you can name is because of blunders which Kyle never had
* The best return guy that the team has had since Steve Smith stopped returning kicks (no, I'm not comparing him to Steve Smith but he was the most consistent the team has had since Smith stopped doing returns)

But yet you think it's "the same team minus Ken Lucas"? Please.
Omiyale was a nothing hack so he's no great loss, Bridges might hurt if our Right guard goes down again, Hangartner I agree was a big loss, but we've got a could of mid draft picks and still a bit of money for Hurney to find us two back up offensive linemen.

At Nickel, CJ Wilson is likely to take over, he was a steal where we got him in the draft and the team has been enamoured with his talent ever since. The guy is a riser and he'll almost certainly be our nickel come game one.

All you're crying about is a backup and an over the hill cornerback. That's no reason to put us behind the Saints in ability for the coming year.
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