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Isaac Bruce is gonna make it, i mean he is 2nd all time in receptions
I think he's 4th. Rice, Harrison, Carter, then Bruce. Or do you mean 2nd all time of currently-active WRs?

edit: He's 5th.
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that's harrison.
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I looked at his numbers again and he does have a ton of TDs. If he passes 15,000 yards (which barring a big injury it looks like he will) then he has a better shot than I gave him credit for. I wouldn't call it a lock but he is right there with Harrison and Moss.



To me all the guys you listed are not HOF-worthy yet. Boldin and to a lesser-extent Wayne still have time to increase their production, maybe get a ring (or a 2nd in Wayne's case) and some big post-season plays. For for Holt I think it's too late. Bruce is on the bubble between HOF and a guy who has been good-to-great for a long time.
Dude, T.O. is 2nd in TD receptions only behind Rice and is one of the top TD scorers to ever play the game.

He is a LOCK to make the HoF. He is one of the greatest and most dominant WR's to ever play the game.
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ah i think it was on some documentary but that was like 3 years old
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Then what is your point? This is a discussion on whether or not Boldin is HOF material. You keep saying "He isn't yet BUT..." like the QBs throwing to him have anything to do with whether or not he will be in the HOF one day.

Their resumes at 6 years along are all better than his. Moss' and Harrison's are significantly better. And IMO Owens will not go to the HOF.



I can't prove your point if you don't have one. Yes Boldin has done well. No one is saying "Boldin plays like ****". But if he continues to play as he has he will not get into the HOF.
good lord this is going no where.
i said he isnt HOF material yet, but if he keeps up his numbers for more years then i dont see why he shouldnt be one.

an the whole QB thing, i was saying that you cant say Wayne, Harrison or TO are much better WR's then Boldin cuz they all had much better QB's throwing to them then Boldin did
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If he continues along this career track, no doubt he's a HOF.
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Bruce is 2nd for career receiving yardage with 14,944. That's where you have heard him being 2nd.
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Bruce is EASILY a HoFamer it's not even a question. So is TO because the touchdowns count where Canton is concerned.

Boldin has to keep it up for a while yet.
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Bruce is EASILY a HoFamer it's not even a question. So is TO because the touchdowns count where Canton is concerned.

Boldin has to keep it up for a while yet.
Why is Bruce easily a HoFer? Only 4 Pro Bowls in his long career, 0 All Pro's.
Only 2 years 10+ TD catches, only 1 year catching 90 + passes, 4 years 1200+ receiving yards in a year. Only 8 years 1,000 receiving yards.

I just view him as a good receiver who had a long career and not HoF worthy.
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good lord this is going no where.
i said he isnt HOF material yet, but if he keeps up his numbers for more years then i dont see why he shouldnt be one.
And I provided evidence for why he shouldn't. His numbers aren't good enough.

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an the whole QB thing, i was saying that you cant say Wayne, Harrison or TO are much better WR's then Boldin cuz they all had much better QB's throwing to them then Boldin did
Why are you telling me about it? I never said anything about Wayne, Harrison, or TO being much better WRs. I said the last two had a better shot at the HOF than Boldin does if his production stays the same.

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Bruce is EASILY a HoFamer it's not even a question.
I doubt it'll be as clear cut as you make it out to be. Will they view his longevity as a positive or as the only reason he's listed near the top of any stat category that matters?
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Why is Bruce easily a HoFer? Only 4 Pro Bowls in his long career, 0 All Pro's.
Only 2 years 10+ TD catches, only 1 year catching 90 + passes, 4 years 1200+ receiving yards in a year. Only 8 years 1,000 receiving yards.

I just view him as a good receiver who had a long career and not HoF worthy.
2nd in receiving yards and 5th in receptions all time. that counts for something
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I think I should start the Dwayne Bowe HoF thread in about 365 days
Why wait?:)
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Well after next year in which he will have 125 receptions, 1600 yards and 19 TDs then I will feel more inclined and not look like such a homer. :D
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2nd in receiving yards and 5th in receptions all time. that counts for something
5-10 years from now, he probably won't be in the top 5 in either category. Based on projections of current players.
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5-10 years from now, he probably won't be in the top 5 in either category. Based on projections of current players.
like who? the other guys that are even close are Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens and Holt (who is 2000 yards away), the first 3 guys are all HoFer

Fitzgerald needs another 10 seasons averaging 900 yards to surpass him.
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like who? the other guys that are even close are Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens and Holt (who is 2000 yards away), the first 3 guys are all HoFer

Fitzgerald needs another 10 seasons averaging 900 yards to surpass him.
if anyone is gonna beat all those guys it's Fitz, he's still very young, so plenty of time left.

8 seasons would be 1285 yards. That's managable.
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if anyone is gonna beat all those guys it's Fitz, he's still very young, so plenty of time left.

8 seasons would be 1285 yards. That's managable.
yea but still an incredible accomplishment
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an again who were throwing to these guys during their career?
Moss had Cunningham, Culpepper an Brady (an Cassel).
Marvin had Manning.
Owens had Young, Garcia, McNabb an even Romo
Boldin had Kurt for one good season..

im not saying Boldin is worth HOF status an that the other WR's are ****** but in my mind you gotta take their QB situation into consideration
I could put up Anquan Boldin type stats if I played Seattle, St. Louis, and San Fran twice every year.

Sure he has a chance, but he's been a #2 in a horrible division. I want to see him be a #1 somewhere else.
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Michael Crabtree... a HoF?
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