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Old 04-26-2009, 06:42 PM    (permalink
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hated the Pettigrew pick, hated the Levy pick, and i also did not like the Williams pick. Not a fan of the runningback we got either. Meh overall, we didn't really shore up this defense.

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B-.

Did not adequately address critical needs, though they added some nice talent. The defense will be ugly again in 2009.
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B+

First day was awesome, and second day filled needs. Only head scratcher was Levy with our first third round pick.
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Did not adequately address critical needs, though they added some nice talent. The defense will be ugly again in 2009.
Yeah i mean in order to rebuild a team, you need to develop your young guys. We only got 1 guy i liked for the Defense and thats Delmas. But we needed Maulaluga at that 20th pick or even when he slipped in the 2nd round. I mean hes a madman who could have changed the face of our defense...and yet we reach for OLBs and try and put them as ILB. I don't know, im just really not feeling this draft and if we got 3 guys who end up good, i'll be happy. I just feel the "Millen presence" is still strong in Allen park. We just don't know how to draft. I hope im wrong. But im very disappointed in this draft.
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I'm borderline C+/B-. I know we needed defense but we got a OLB after we just picked one and i wish we would've picked D or O line, but I'm going to assume they were BPA on the lion's board.
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over all im satisfied. the pettigrew pick shows we are comitted to build around stafford. Delmas is completely a Schwartz pick. He had a good safety in Tennessee with griffin and delmas is expected to fill that role. Levy is a head scratcher but they must be looking at him to play MLB. I actually really do like the williams pick and thinks he could be a great contributer on our offense. I also like the Sammy Lee Hill hes huge and can be a great NT for us and can clog the middle on the Dline.

Overall i was hoping they would address Defense more ealry on but they did add 2 LBS a DT and Safety.

Yes our defense is going to struggle next year but we all knew it wasnt a one year fix unless we went all defense from 1 on. The good news is tho that they are trying to build around Stafford. Pettigrew will be a great piece to the offense with him and CJ. Plus he is a good blocker and does make our oline better.
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Did not adequately address critical needs, though they added some nice talent.
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B+

I don't care about needs. Every position is a need.

I care about talent, and we got a lot of that this weekend.
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By pick:
Stafford: A
Pettigrew: C+
Delmas: B
Levy: C-
Williams: B
Hill: A- (BURNING BUILDING)
Brown: B-
Murtha: A-
Follett/Grontkowski: Irrelevant

Overall: B

Could have done better but filled a few needs and really helped establish a core of weapons around Stafford.
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A-
QB of future signed before draft, real TE, impact presence in the secondary, a couple good pass rushing LBs to fill out the position, hill and murtha are two big talented pieces of clay for our coaches, and we have a couple nice options as return men. they picked some nice talent for each level-trenches, linebackers, secondary, skill positions, etc. i'm trusting schwartz.
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Aside from Sammie Lee Hill and Lydon Murtha, I don't think we built the TRENCHES!
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C+ simply because I can't see the plan in failing to land a MLB or LT/LG who could potentially start.

Sure, if some of these players work out then it's a much better grade, but that's always true.
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Stafford is gonna play LG until he's ready to take over at QB.
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I don't care about needs. Every position is a need.

I care about talent, and we got a lot of that this weekend.
Exactly. I have saw our last 5 drafts all been A's and end up being terrible. I'm not judging anything until they have played in the league.

I have a feeling Sims won't be around much longer though.
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I really liked the day 1 picks...

but I'm not sure on day 2. It seems like they could have got better talent with the 3rd rd picks but maybe they saw something in them.

I guess I'll go with b/b-
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Not a fan of assigning a graded letter to drafts, but I will say we got some talent (at the top especially) that's for sure ... 3 players in fact that were nearly the #1 rated player at their position since high school in Stafford, Williams & Murtha. But too many flashy offensive positions that were not the big uglies up front to protect our investment!

Something about this draft just bothers me though ... and I think the Lions are still suspect at scouting talent in the middle rounds. I did not like the order in which they selected the positions either. For example, this was a deep draft for TE's and a Coffman,Casey,Cook pick-up in 3 or 4 would have been just as good for me. Really was hoping for a defensive STUD @ #20 ;o( Not enough addition to the D overall, we will struggle to stop teams again next year. Hill could be Haynesworth 2.0 ... jury is still out?
A couple more observations, we passed on some impact palyers that were there for the taking in: (Duke Robinson/Kraig Urbik, Rey Maulaluga/Jasper Brinkley, Peria Jerry/Ziggy Hood) all guys I really liked and thought would fit. The Levy pick I don't get, he will have to add 15 pounds to play the middle if he is 228 lb ... we took 2 TE's and 2 OLB's without a natural Mike LB ... that was my biggest head scratcher. I really thought Maualuga was ours, still think Deandre Levy has big shoes to fill for being such a high pick and palying an unatural position in he middle.

It was fun. Let's do it again soon!
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I could see Follett ending up as our starting MLB...dude isn't the biggest, but he makes plays...
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I don't know what to say about this draft. It seems that when you are an 0 and 16 team you need everything in the Lions case the don't need list is shorter than the needs list.

Don't Need list - RB, WR, OLB, DE CB. Anything not on that list is a need.

What I think they did was went with the highest ranked player that wasn't in one of those positions.

1. Matt Stafford - Grade B+ - I wanted: BJ Raji - I have a huge mancrush on BJ Raji and believe he will be a great NT. That said I believe that the Lions saw Stafford as the best player in this draft better than the tackles better than Raji. I think he is the best QB prospect in this year's draft, next years draft, and even last years draft. It is up to the coaches to take this potential and bring it out.

20. Brandon Pettigrew - Grade C+ I wanted Michael Oher - It is only a C+ because Michael Oher was on the board. I can see why Oher was not picked the down points are scary and Pettigrew is a much safer pick. Has trouble learning offenses, very inconsistent with his footwork (Watch the senior bowl tapes he would be dominant one point and then just get owned by an inferior DE right after) I suppose that those reasons were enough to scare the Lions off from Oher. Pettigrew is a great blocker and could be a do it all Jason Witten type guy for us when we have Jared Allen on the outside we can double him with Pettigrew and help Backus out when needed. Lets just say I don't agree with the pick but I understand it.

33. Louis Delmas - Grade B - At first I was floored when they passed on Rey Rey again for the 3rd time. In the heat of the moment I was very angry. After I calmed down and looked at it (and heard some of Mike Mayock's analysis) Rey fell out of the first round because of concerns of him being a 3 down ILB that is why 32 teams passed on him the first time and why Lil Animal went before him. Personally I think they got caught with their pants down not expecting Ziggy Hood to be taken by the Steelers. The Steelers surprised everyone with that pick and now there isn't a DT worth getting drafted in the 2nd/3rd round as an UT I like brace but he is only a 3-4 NT and don't see him doing anything at the 4-3 D. Is it just me or is Delmas and Alexander the same player?

76. DeAndre Levy - Grade ?? - I wanted Jasper Brinkley/Scott McKillop - According to their draft position I would have reached a bit here. One of three things are going on here with the Levy pick. Either Sim's job is in trouble. He is a backup drafted in the 3rd or he is going to be converted to ILB. With his ability to stack the FB I think he is going to be kicked inside to take the middle spot from Paris.


82 Lions (From Cowboys) Williams, Derrick - Grade C - I wanted Duke Robinson - It looks at the moment either Robinson was over rated by the TV/internet draft community or very under rated in the League. Williams I don't know. we have a ton of WRs right now #1 and #2 I think are set so Williams might be the #3/4 WR and return man this is going to be a wait and see pick could be great could bust very early.

115. Sammie Lee Hill - Grade A - I wanted Sammie Lee Hill - I love the pick Hill will break the NT rotation early is a big body that we didn't have last year.

192 (From Cowboys) Aaron Brown - Grade ?? - Looking at it I think Brown at best will be the change of pace back or 3rd down guy. At worst he doesn't make training camp.

228 (From Jets) Lydon Murtha - Grade A - I didn't know anything about the guy until I heard his name on 971 (2 or 3 rounds before he was taken) and I looked into him. I like it.

235 (From Falcons through Broncos) Zack Follett - Will be a decent ST guy nothing more


The Last pick won't make training camp I have no time to worry abiyt this grade
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Think you guys will love Pettigrew, but will regret not taking Michael Oher when you could have drafted a great LT prospect...

Past that I think you did well

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Think you guys will love Pettigrew, but will regret not taking Michael Oher when you could have drafted a great LT prospect...

Past that I think you did well

B+
Pettigrew was the right pick, I beleive Backus is solid enough (or atleast better than Oher now and his first year). We can pick a LT next draft, but Pettigrew is instant offense as a Pass-Catcher and a Run-blocker. He will make the QB and Kevin better while making plays for himself, this was a great pick-up.
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Detroit: A+

Sure, we still have to wait 3 years to find out if Stafford is any good but he fit Schwartz's scheme and the position was absolutely correct.
Pettigrew - In an exceptionally weak draft, he was a steal at #20. He is like having a 2nd LT playing on the field re: blocking and is a real comfort player who should really help Stafford develop and Schwartz schemes runs a lot of plays for his TE's if he follows Tennessee's style offense.
Delmas - Can he stand up as a SS over time because he puts his body on the line every play. If there weren't longevity concerns he is easily a 1st rounder.
In this weak draft, the rest of the picks are anybodies guess but I think they did their homework and we'll just have to see.
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