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Old 01-07-2010, 05:56 AM    (permalink
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I'm not a huge fan of JPP.

All potential, minimal production.

I'd rather have someone that can be reliably consistent than one with sky-high potential. More like Kerney (in prime) than Peppers, for example. Someone who might not take over a game, but will get consistent pressure and where you know the QB won't have all day.
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I would be furious if we picked a WR in the 1st.

White is elite, Jenks is at least solid, and Douglas is coming back. Also, in this deep draft class good talent can be found in the 3rd or 4th.

Any IMPACT player has to be on D.
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I'm not a huge fan of JPP.

All potential, minimal production.

I'd rather have someone that can be reliably consistent than one with sky-high potential. More like Kerney (in prime) than Peppers, for example. Someone who might not take over a game, but will get consistent pressure and where you know the QB won't have all day.
i kind of get what you are saying but nobody in the draft is gauranteed to be a consistent player and i would prefer peppers or a peppers type player to a kerney any day of the week
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Im a fan of JPP just not for the Falcons. We have our project and young guy in Sudbury. Also, not a fan of WR in round one...Have you forgotten how our defense was this year??

Ive already stated previously my thoughts and they havent changed as of yet
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Im a fan of JPP just not for the Falcons. We have our project and young guy in Sudbury.

I do tend to agree with this however. If there's not another player that I like on the board though, I'd go for it. As it stands, I'd obviously want to pick a defensive player unless CJ Spiller is on the board. Then all bets are off. Too perfect of a fit.
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C.J Spiller might fit perfect, but there are still question marks. Much like norwood, he has his own issues with durability. This is not good.
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We don't need Spiller at all. A WR would be a little more tenable, but we need defense, defense, defense.
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We don't need Spiller at all. A WR would be a little more tenable, but we need defense, defense, defense.

I think you are underestimating the need. I fully agree with defense, but I just think Spiller is a perfect fit. But as far as the need goes, Norwood is most likely out and can't even be counted on. Snelling is all too similar to Tuner. Spiller would be an ideal homerun threat, and more importantly IMO, the playmaker/explosive check down option Matt Ryan needs.
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I agree that spiller does bring a home run threat, an in my eyes more importantly a big uprage in our special teams with his return abilities but this currnet defence will again prevent us making the playoffs. the offence is not the problem, the problem is giving up so many big plays in the passing game therefore a coner who can cover and a pass rush is required.
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Norwood isn't going anywhere if there isn't a new CBA.
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can't believe we sucked so bad in 2009 but still won't have our pick inside the 20.
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Here is my current "ideal" offseason

F/A
(pipe dream) CB Champ Bailey
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(the more realistic) CB Leigh Bodden

Trade
atl trades pick (1st)19 875(pts) to KC for pick (2nd)37 530(pts) (3rd)68 250(pts) and (4th) 100 (100pts)

2) (fr KC) Vladimir Duccasse, OT UMASS.
I believe one of Harvey Dahl or Tyson Clabo will leave this year creating a need with very little depth behind it, Garret Renyolds looked good, but this guy would slot right in at RT or RG and also add value at LT if/when Baker goes down again. Possible re-think if Jerry Hughes was still here at this point

3) (fr KC)Jimmy Graham, TE MIAMI
Freak who we can use in the red zone and split at #2 WR as a rookie providing more weapons for Ryan, loves the block, and will learn from the best before taking over in 2011. We need him to suck at the senior bowl and run a 4.7 at the combine to still be here at this point (OVER 30=GONZALES)

3) Aj Edds, OLB IOWA
Big, fast and smart backer who should compete with Stephen Nicolas for a starting job as a rookie. I see Edds, Lofton and Adkins as a brutal LB core for the future. (OVER 30=PETERSON)

4) (fr KC)Austen Lane, DE MURRAY STATE
Probably think i waited way too long for a DE and i agree somewhat but look at the history. TD takes small school DEs who have production and potential. He does not like selecting juniors (JPP and Griffen) and does not select guys with spotty motors and/or character concerns (Griffen, Hardy, Dunlap). JPP is just as risky as Austen Lane but with Lane we pay a lower price whilst trading off very little upside. There is also the arguement we need instant help at DE from the rookie, but again, none of JPP or Griffen (leaving the others out for character reasons) come out ready to go...all will need to sit and learn. (OVER 30=ABRAHAM)

4) Eric Olsen, C NOTRE DAME
Big physical centre to groom. BAKER, BLAYLOCK OLSEN RENYOLDS DECUSSE look pretty big and mean for the future (OVER 30=MCLURE)

4) (comp) Naamaan Roosevelt, WR BUFFALO
Real solid WR, #4 WR as a rookie. A guy who could potentially challenge Jenkins on the flank (OVER 30=FINNERAN)

5) Nolan Carrol, CB MARYLAND
Injured as a senior, good size, team leader, could be a steal BAILEY/BODDEN,OWENS,GRIMES,WILLIAMS,JACKSON,CARROL. Houston and Hill seem like the odd men out

5) (comp) Leigh Tiffin, K ALABAMA
Best kicker in the draft, essentially a 6th rounder, ends the farse that is our kicking situation forever

6) Brandan Banks, WR, KENTUCKY
Freakishly fast return specialist who is severly undersized, worth a flyer at this point. (OVER 30=BOOKER)

7) (comp) Jeromy Miles, SS UMASS
With Miles, Moore, Coleman and DeCoud we would have some real nice depth at the position


This draft adds real depth across the board as well as some impact. Add the instant impact of Jerry, Moore and HD and you have 13 players with 2 or less years to add to our 2009 squad who stiill had nine wins without Ryan and Turner against one of the most brutal scedules on record.

Note also we would have no positions with players over 30 without one, and in most cases two, up and coming players with potential to take over from them.

Lots to be positive about

After a draft like this i think the 2011 draft and beyond will allow us to take BPA and approach it just like the Pats and Eagles do
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Atljbo's write up of a TD interview, with my comments:

1.Sam Baker had to deal with injuries this year but he has no doubt that Sam Baker is a probowl LT when he's healthy... They are getting him 100% healthy.

I agree. We need better depth, but Baker is still locked in as a starter.

2. They are working on contract extensions with Norwood and Snelling... Both should be done soon.

Nice, assuming the price is right. Probably takes Spiller out of the equation.

3. Grimes and Owens grew up doing the year... Throughout the year they learned how to make plays on the ball... Grimes is really athletic... Owens will be a good player in this league... We must have ball hawking CB's...We will continue to improve the position thru FA or Draft.

Agree. They did a good job at the end of the season, but we definitely need a premier CB, or the best we can get.

4. He is very excited about Curtis Lofton and Stephen Nicolas future... He mention how how Cutis Lofton is an up incoming MLB and Nicholas is a sideline to sideline LB

Agreed.

5. Basically we will tender Clabo and Dahl.

No reason not to. See how they do next year, and how Reynolds develops, and then decide whether to give them longterm deals.

6. TD does not want to be known as a draft GM or FA GM... If a good FA that could help us out, we will aggressively go after the player.

Durr.

7. Kroy Biermann is a well-rounded athlete (the kickoff)

Love Biermann.

8. William Moore, Peria Jerry,and Harry Douglas rehab is going good and all 3 will be 100% next year.

Exciting to know that Jerry is not as f*cked as I thought. Apparently it was not an ACL or MCL, but a bone injury, which heals much faster.

9. Harry Douglas thought he could come back at the end of the season.

Same as above.

10. Next year roster will look different with the addition of Freeagents, draft picks, William Moore, Peria Jerry,and Harry Douglas.

Captain obvious :P

11. Michael Jenkins had some rough moments this year because of injuries but he is a good #2 WR.

Decent #2 WR, and could be upgraded, but the fact is he isn't going anywhere.

12.Compared C.J Spilleer to Jerious Norwood... Both are fast and explosive change of pace RB's.. Both contribute as a RB, WR, and Returner.
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What do you guys think of Rennie Curran??? Undersized linebacker from Georgia just declared, from what I've seen he's solid in coverage and always around the ball. Although he has good speed, I'm not sure if 5'11 / 225 cuts it as an NFL linebacker. He's an interesting prospect and if we can't snag let's say Derrick Morgan or a miraculous Joe Haden drop, I wouldn't be completely apposed to him in the 1st round. Thoughts???
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What do you guys think of Rennie Curran??? Undersized linebacker from Georgia just declared, from what I've seen he's solid in coverage and always around the ball. Although he has good speed, I'm not sure if 5'11 / 225 cuts it as an NFL linebacker. He's an interesting prospect and if we can't snag let's say Derrick Morgan or a miraculous Joe Haden drop, I wouldn't be completely apposed to him in the 1st round. Thoughts???
I think he'd be more of a candidate for our 3rd round pick that a 1st rounder, but he's definitely the kind of guy I could see TD going for, and would fit nicely as Peterson's understudy and future replacement.
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I've seen like every game of Rennie Curran's career at UGA. The guy is a beast, he's so damn fast and he's built like a tank. He can blitz really well, and I can definitely picture him replacing peterson, curran is about 10x faster then him. I guarantee he'll run the top 40 out of any linebacker, sub 4.5
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I know that I'm a fan. I don't honestly see him as a top 20 pick though.
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Atljbo's write up of a TD interview, with my comments:

1.Sam Baker had to deal with injuries this year but he has no doubt that Sam Baker is a probowl LT when he's healthy... They are getting him 100% healthy.

That's all fine and dandy, but he's going to play hurt other times in his career. He was simply atrocious this year and is obviously very injury prone.

2. They are working on contract extensions with Norwood and Snelling... Both should be done soon.

Snelling is a good move, very valuable. Norwood better be very, very cheap. I've also been a fan of his and what he can do, but he can't even stay healthy as a change of pace back. Notice how his YPC has gone down every year as well. I feel as if he could be upgraded.

3. Grimes and Owens grew up doing the year... Throughout the year they learned how to make plays on the ball... Grimes is really athletic... Owens will be a good player in this league... We must have ball hawking CB's...We will continue to improve the position thru FA or Draft.

Yup. Certainly looked better as we carried along. Don't forget though, we played some pretty terrible QBs in Brohm, Sanchez, and Freeman at the end of the year. Still need major help.

4. He is very excited about Curtis Lofton and Stephen Nicolas future... He mention how how Cutis Lofton is an up incoming MLB and Nicholas is a sideline to sideline LB

Agree

5. Basically we will tender Clabo and Dahl.

Makes sense.

6. TD does not want to be known as a draft GM or FA GM... If a good FA that could help us out, we will aggressively go after the player.

Might want to try and do that this off season. Some CB help would have been nice this past year, and I'm not talking about Brian Williams.

7. Kroy Biermann is a well-rounded athlete (the kickoff)

Yes.

8. William Moore, Peria Jerry,and Harry Douglas rehab is going good and all 3 will be 100% next year.

Good to hear

9. Harry Douglas thought he could come back at the end of the season.

Same as above.

10. Next year roster will look different with the addition of Freeagents, draft picks, William Moore, Peria Jerry,and Harry Douglas.

Absolutely pivotal to do a much better job this offseason

11. Michael Jenkins had some rough moments this year because of injuries but he is a good #2 WR.

Don't want to hear the injury excuse. He can easily be upgraded and is not worth the contract he got.

12.Compared C.J Spilleer to Jerious Norwood... Both are fast and explosive change of pace RB's.. Both contribute as a RB, WR, and Returner.
Why is he getting so many CJ Spiller questions?

My thoughts on the interview. Thanks for posting my man.
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So I just read up more on Curran, looks like he will find himself in the late 2nd-mid 3rd round as a prospect. I would love to draft him there, leaving size out of the equation, he has great character, works extremely hard, and has the production to back it up. I would love our offseason to look like this:

F/A - Dunta Robinson / Leigh Bodden (I prefer Robinson myself who seems like he is on his way out of Houston)

1. Derrick Morgan / JPP / Dunlap (whoever is available, I'm a Morgan guy myself)
3. Rennie Curran (stated above, this guy is undersized, but a beast)

This would address three of the biggest needs we have. We'll also most likely end up with a late 3rd as a compensatory pick.
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1. Derrick Morgan / JPP / Dunlap (whoever is available, I'm a Morgan guy myself)

Off the board, off the board, not worthy of being a top 20 pick, IMO.
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Off the board, off the board, not worthy of being a top 20 pick, IMO.
Junior DEs scare me...JPP is a guy id probably like to be off the board when we pick. I love the idea of him, but hate the risk,
Griffen and Dunlap are similiar
Morgan, whilst not likely to be there, also scares me some although a lesser extent than the others

IF i could be certain though JPP and Sid would be my 10 sack-year DEs of the future. I love their athletism
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What about Jerry Hughes? What do we think off him

The good
Senior
Leader
Production
Competition
Agression
I gaurentee the front office LOVES him

The bad
Same body type as our current DE's
Can he play LE
Upside
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It might be a bit of a reach, but I love Brandon Graham.
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For players like graham, dunlap and hughes mabey even cory wooton, i think we can trade down into the early second round and pick them up. Of the four based on talent and upside i would go with dunlap but there is no chance because on his character issues that TD will draft him.

if we dont get a corner in free agency i think then we have to draft one with our first pick, i.e partick robinson
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The guy i want most is Rennie Curren.
And this is coming from a guy who HATES uga..
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I'll draft Rennie Curran even in the 1st. The guy will change up your defense.
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