2010 Falcons Draft Discussion - Page 9

kiranadwaney · 01-20-2010, 07:31 PM

shipley more for his return ability, think he will be a good slot reciever but never a number two. i think in time gettis has the size and speed (ish) you look for in a number two guy and in a year or two can compete with jenkins

Bosanac01 · 01-20-2010, 09:51 PM

Matt Tennant is like a 2nd or 3rd rounder. He could be the #1 center of this class. I guarantee he won't last longer then that.

kiranadwaney · 01-21-2010, 05:24 AM

maybe it was too much of a dream then, just think that we need to draft a centre to groom behind mcclure, if tennant is gone i would not mind thomas austin from clemson in the fifth.

Bosanac01 · 01-22-2010, 02:28 AM

So Kiper is giving us Sergio Kindle. He should definitely be there at 19 unless he blows up at the combine which is likely, then the raiders take him.

He's listed as an OLBer and he's 6'4 255lbs. I'd love it if we get this guy. He reminds me of Karlos Dansby. He's really fast, and versatile, and the guy doesn't miss tackles. At college he played ILB, OLB, and DE. He was asked to rush the passer a lot but also can cover.

He fits best in a 3-4. We need both DE and OLBer, so we can definitely use him in a lot of different ways in our 4-3. What do you guys think?

DraftMichaelHuff · 01-22-2010, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosanac01

So Kiper is giving us Sergio Kindle. He should definitely be there at 19 unless he blows up at the combine which is likely, then the raiders take him.

He's listed as an OLBer and he's 6'4 255lbs. I'd love it if we get this guy. He reminds me of Karlos Dansby. He's really fast, and versatile, and the guy doesn't miss tackles. At college he played ILB, OLB, and DE. He was asked to rush the passer a lot but also can cover.

He fits best in a 3-4. We need both DE and OLBer, so we can definitely use him in a lot of different ways in our 4-3. What do you guys think?

alot of things about the guy appeal to me, the character concerns (whatever they are) probably will spook TD a bit....we could do much worse though

Man, im really really hoping JPP is off the board when we pick...if he is on the board its gonna be so hard to not want us to take him. Even after JA98....even after him (JPP) not seeming too bright in interviews....just that athleticsm man, its amazing. He could be our Peppers at LE in time. JPP Kroy and Sid would be sick. But i know he'd need time to devlop and it would be so hard to be patient after seeing Jamaal take 3 years and ge no-where..In saying that though... if TD takes him...id have faith

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-22-2010, 05:03 AM

I'm a big Kindle fan. Unless we plan on having another undersized end though, he isn't a great fit considering how we really don't blitz ever.

scar988 · 01-23-2010, 04:56 PM

we won't take character issues.

Bosanac01 · 01-23-2010, 05:32 PM

not like we already don't have character issues on the team. We can work with that I'm sure.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-23-2010, 06:08 PM

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not like we already don't have character issues on the team. We can work with that I'm sure.

I know what you are saying, but I'd have to agree with Scar on this one. This should be a pretty telling draft though.

Bosanac01 · 01-23-2010, 06:27 PM

Well I would like to agree with scar and say our coaches will not be taking anyone with character concers but I don't think they will just scratch guys from the big board just because of minor off-field issues.

In sergio kindle's case, Idk how much of a character concern it is but he just doesn't seem very bright and is a little immature, but he looks like a hard worker.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-25-2010, 05:06 AM

Saints vs Colts

It shows you can just never have enough offensive weapons.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-25-2010, 01:24 PM

So we hired Tim Lewis. Which from what I've witnessed/Giants fans have told me, is an absolutely dreadful hire.

Bosanac01 · 01-25-2010, 02:14 PM

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So we hired Tim Lewis. Which from what I've witnessed/Giants fans have told me, is an absolutely dreadful hire.

We can't be much worse, probly nothing changes.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-25-2010, 02:58 PM

Beginning his coaching career in 1987 at Texas A&M, Lewis served under his former college coach at Pitt, Jackie Sherrill. He would later spend time at defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New York Giants.

Despite his aggressive defensive schemes during his time in Pittsburgh, Lewis reverted to soft defense in his last two years in Pittsburgh and while in New York. In the case of the Steelers, it was cited as the primary reason that after the 2003 season that head coach Bill Cowher dismissed Lewis, the only defensive coordinator in Cowher's 15-year tenure in Pittsburgh to be fired. He would subsequently be replaced by current defensive coordinator **** LeBeau, who served the team in the same capacity from 1995-1996. Years later, Steelers linebacker James Harrison (who was cut by the team three times during Lewis's tenure) would mention how he hated how he was treated by Lewis, and that one of the reasons he agreed to come back for a fourth time in 2004 was because Lewis was gone.

Sam Madison, best known for his play as a man to man coverage cornerback, has been dropped back into zone on defense. Another player in the New York Giants defensive unit, LaVar Arrington, has also been dropped back into zone coverage time and time again, despite the fact that his three Pro Bowl seasons in Washington came while Arrington was being sent in on blitzes. Lewis' soft defensive schemes, including a diminished use of blitzing, led to unpopularity among several New York Giants faithful. This is despite his being considered a head coaching candidate by other teams before the 2006 season.[1] The New York Giants defense in 2006 finished 25th overall, 28th against the pass and 14th against the run, as the team barely made the playoffs at 8-8. He was fired on January 11, 2007.

Bosanac01 · 01-25-2010, 03:27 PM

he seems overqualified. Holy ****. Good find.

thefalconer · 01-25-2010, 06:29 PM

holy ****. that sucks.

dunagan15 · 01-26-2010, 05:48 AM

God im praying for a good offseason...

D-Rod · 01-26-2010, 10:50 AM

He's a secondary coach, he's not calling plays, which is the main complaint above. He certainly knows his stuff.

zachsaints52 · 01-26-2010, 10:54 AM

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He's a secondary coach, he's not calling plays, which is the main complaint above. He certainly knows his stuff.

He knows how to find a players best abilities and not use them. I like the hire :P

2KD@VIS · 01-26-2010, 12:08 PM

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My dream 2010 draft.

First off trade pick number 19 and a 5th rounder to New England for picks number 42 & 47

Then assume that we get a 4th for foxworth, 5th for boley and 7th for brooking in comp picks

2nd: Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma St
2nd: Greg Hardy DE Ole Miss
3rd: Rennie Curran LB Georgia
4th: Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
4th: Jordan Shipley KR/WR Texas
5th: Matt Tennant OC Boston College
6th: John Jerry OG Ole Miss
7th: David Gettis WR Baylor

great draft don't know bout curran tho

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-26-2010, 02:33 PM

I want one of Spiller or McCluster so bad. I really feel as if we are a piece like of them away from being a great offense.

d34ng3l021 · 01-26-2010, 03:12 PM

Seems like we may be interested in Perrish Cox

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One agent I’d met last year came up and started chatting. He wanted to make sure I knew what players he’d signed. He also noted the local agent Todd France was having a really big season and then offered up some possibly valuable draft information.

“I’ll tell you what,” the agent said. “He’s not even my client, but I know the Falcons love that big kid over there (pointing). Perrish Cox, the cornerback from Oklahoma State.”

Now, I’m interested.

The NFL Network’s Mike Mayock had already alerted me to him, Florida State’s Patrick Robinson and Southern California’s Taylor Mays as possible first round defensive backs on the South team. Mays is a safety.

“So, Cox in the first round for the Falcons?,” I asked the agent.

“He won’t be there in the second,” the agent said. “And he’s not my guy.”

Unsolicited, the agent said, “He’s got three kids.”

Everybody knows the Falcons are looking for so-called “good character” players in the post-Michael Vick era. You can’t indict a guy for starting a family early, but the Falcons will want to know more about his family.

So the Falcons might have to do a thorough background check on Cox, who was also suspended for the Cotton Bowl. e apparently missed curfew by 30 minutes and fell out with head coach Mike Gundy.

Last season, the Falcons passed on Illinois cornerback Vontae Davis because of his “character” issues. He was selected one pick after they took Peria Jerry. He went on to have a fine rookie season with the Dolphins and made several all-rookie teams.

Cox is 6-foot and 190 pounds and went against touted receiver Dez Bryant in practice every day. (You know, until he got suspended.) He’s also an accomplished returner.

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Bosanac01 · 01-26-2010, 06:28 PM

I'm all for selecting a CB in the first. Perrish Cox is a reach at that point, but he's 6 foot and has ball hawk skills. I wouldn't mind that.

Bosanac01 · 01-27-2010, 02:20 AM

Some pretty good CBs will be playing in the senior bowl. Gotta watch that.

D-Rod · 01-27-2010, 04:41 AM

• Michigan DE Brandon Graham was outstanding today. Graham doesn’t look the part out there but he consistently got the best of every blocker he was matched up against and drew an audible response from the crowd with a terrific spin move.

If he has a good combine, he may not even be there at 19/20. This guy is really taking the lead as my first choice. He's good against the run, consistent, has good character, has great technique, and gets pressure. What more can one ask for?