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View Poll Results: Who is your favorite philosopher(s)?
Ancient Philosophy (Aristotle, Plato) 13 19.40%
Scholasticism (St. Thomas Aquinas) 3 4.48%
Renaissance Humanism (Thomas More, Erasmus) 1 1.49%
Rationalism (Descartes, Voltaire, Kant) 18 26.87%
Empiricism, Social Contract (John Locke, David Hume) 11 16.42%
Social Materialism/Marxism (Karl Marx, Hegel) 6 8.96%
Existentialism (Kafka, Nietzsche) 7 10.45%
Post-Moderism/Structuralism (Derrida, Foucault, Nietzsche) 5 7.46%
Analytical Philosophy (Bertrand Russell, Wittgenstein) 1 1.49%
Structuralism (Levi-Strauss, Ferdinand de Saussure, Chomsky) 2 2.99%
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I think it's funny how many people like rationalism and existentialism. That's like being a Nazi Jew.
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I think it's funny how many people like rationalism and existentialism. That's like being a Nazi Jew.
I guess it sort of is...but I enjoy reading lots of philosophy. Is the thread supposed to be what you enjoy most, or what you believe most?

I enjoyed reading Voltaire and Kafka, I don't think that is too aweful.
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Oh I don't think there's anything wrong with that contradiction (so maybe the Nazi Jew isn't the best example). Philosophy is inherently contradictory, so there's nothing wrong with appreciating multiple approaches.
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Oh I don't think there's anything wrong with that contradiction (so maybe the Nazi Jew isn't the best example). Philosophy is inherently contradictory, so there's nothing wrong with appreciating multiple approaches.
Definitely, I hated Cicero but his De Oratore was a source in countless papers I wrote.
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I think it's funny how many people like rationalism and existentialism. That's like being a Nazi Jew.
actually there were a lot of jews that were Nazis ;)
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actually there were a lot of jews that were Nazis ;)
I think they called them Einsatzjuden, right?

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I think they called them Einsatzjuden, right?

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not only. Being a Nazi didnt really include killing jews. it was the thinking that Germany is the greatest country and they had to work together and hard to make it the most powerful country in the world. A lot of Jews really liked those thoughts
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not only. Being a Nazi didnt really include killing jews. it was the thinking that Germany is the greatest country and they had to work together and hard to make it the most powerful country in the world. A lot of Jews really liked those thoughts
My understanding of Nazism is quite a bit different. If we're looking at Mein Kampf as what Nazism is about then it's clear that anti-semitism and the superiority of the Aryan race is a key belief in Nazism. Jews were viewed as threats to the Aryan race just like the Soviets.
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u cant be a Jew and an Antisemitist. u can be a supporter of the Nazis and u could be a supporter of the views of the NSDAP being a jew. only the jews in germany where the threats. thats why they didnt care if all of them left
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u cant be a Jew and an Antisemitist. u can be a supporter of the Nazis and u could be a supporter of the views of the NSDAP being a jew. only the jews in germany where the threats. thats why they didnt care if all of them left
Consdering Hitler was the head of the Nazi party, it would generally be a bad idea to be a Jew supporting them.

The Jews outside of Germany were also a threat. They represented capitalism and many believed they were exploiting the worker. Also, there was obvious racial hatred against Jews (among other groups) as they were described as subhuman and unworthy of life.
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Consdering Hitler was the head of the Nazi party, it would generally be a bad idea to be a Jew supporting them.

The Jews outside of Germany were also a threat. They represented capitalism and many believed they were exploiting the worker. Also, there was obvious racial hatred against Jews (among other groups) as they were described as subhuman and unworthy of life.
no, Hitler was happy with getting rid of the Jews out of germany. the only thing he really feared was the threat from inside. he thoroughly believed that Germany as it is couldnt be defeated like they were in WW I. so there had to be enemies in germany that were the reasons for that. that wasnt only the jews but also socialists and communists. Being a nazi isnt specifically being against jews but protecting germany from inner threats.
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no, Hitler was happy with getting rid of the Jews out of germany. the only thing he really feared was the threat from inside. he thoroughly believed that Germany as it is couldnt be defeated like they were in WW I. so there had to be enemies in germany that were the reasons for that. that wasnt only the jews but also socialists and communists. Being a nazi isnt specifically being against jews but protecting germany from inner threats.
Central to the views of Nazism is the belief of the racial superiority of Aryans which is why no Jew would subscribe to that belief system.
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Central to the views of Nazism is the belief of the racial superiority of Aryans which is why no Jew would subscribe to that belief system.
its not the central. its not at all. the central is to make germany the strongest country on earth, following its calling.

Why do u think Hitler wasnt an aryan?
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btw im not saying they went around and killed the Jews, but there were a lot that were totally agreeing with everything Hitler said thus making them Nazis in my eyes
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its not the central. its not at all. the central is to make germany the strongest country on earth, following its calling.

Why do u think Hitler wasnt an aryan?
Hitler was an Aryan...
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btw im not saying they went around and killed the Jews, but there were a lot that were totally agreeing with everything Hitler said thus making them Nazis in my eyes
I can guarantee you there were not many Jews believing that Aryans were the superior race and Jews were the opposite of Aryans and hence do not deserve to live.
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Hitler was an Aryan...
the best aryan was supposed to be a Blond haired, blue eyed with all northern european roots. Strong and Firm.

did u ever see hitler?

and as i said, the main idea wasnt the superiority of the Aryan race but the superiority of germany itself
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not only. Being a Nazi didnt really include killing jews. it was the thinking that Germany is the greatest country and they had to work together and hard to make it the most powerful country in the world. A lot of Jews really liked those thoughts
Ya fully aware of that. That type of ( volkish) thought some well before the Nazis.
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Ya fully aware of that. That type of ( volkish) thought some well before the Nazis.
actually i think u meant the Einsatzgruppen. i was kinda sleepy when i answered the other thing, i dont think there were Einsatzjuden
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the best aryan was supposed to be a Blond haired, blue eyed with all northern european roots. Strong and Firm.

did u ever see hitler?

and as i said, the main idea wasnt the superiority of the Aryan race but the superiority of germany itself
Hitler was still an Aryan, despite his phsical appearance.

There can be more than one main idea in a political ideology. Hitler and the Nazis believed in the superiority of the Aryan race. Hence, no Jew would believe in everything Hitler said unless they believe in their own inferiority.
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Hitler was still an Aryan, despite his phsical appearance.

There can be more than one main idea in a political ideology. Hitler and the Nazis believed in the superiority of the Aryan race. Hence, no Jew would believe in everything Hitler said unless they believe in their own inferiority.
they obviously didnt want to kill the Jews. But its not like Hitler became Reichskanzler and was like: hey lets kill the jews. He didnt start with it till like 5 years he was Kanzler. there were Jews that followed him.

besides, there is also a chance there were actually guys that were so crazy to believe in their own inferiority to help their own country.
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they obviously didnt want to kill the Jews. But its not like Hitler became Reichskanzler and was like: hey lets kill the jews. He didnt start with it till like 5 years he was Kanzler. there were Jews that followed him.

besides, there is also a chance there were actually guys that were so crazy to believe in their own inferiority to help their own country.
The point is there is no such thing as a Jewish Nazi. It's an oxymoron. It would be like a black man becoming a white supremacist.
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The point is there is no such thing as a Jewish Nazi. It's an oxymoron. It would be like a black man becoming a white supremacist.
no its not. Nazi doesnt mean Antisemitist. A Jewish Antisemitist is an oxymoron. Jewish Nazi? not so much
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