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Old 08-17-2009, 08:23 PM    (permalink
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I would say an impact defender up front is the #1 item on the Lions shopping list (whether in FA or in the draft) I.E. Dunlap, McCoy, Hardy, Selvie etc.
So with that said, I would look to grab an athletic, long armed/quick footed yet strong LT with the #2 pick. (who wouldn't?) Charles Brown LT @ USC is posed to have a monster year and will be on national TV almost every game. Look for him to climb up draft boards. Selvish Capers LT @ WVU is another good looking athlete we could snag in the 2nd. A former TE who is very fast and lean but would be of the Jason Williams or William Beatty mold from the 2009 draft. A perfect combo for opposite Gosder "the mauler" Cherilus ;o)
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if avril plays to his potential then i think McCoy has to be the pick. but LT is a huge need as well
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Valenti on 97.1 the ticket today, said he could argue (and I tend to agree) the Leo's could go Dline with their first 3 picks and with a FA pick-up next year and still not have all the holes filled up front on D. By that he obviously means the 6-8 solid Dlineman it takes t obe a top 10 run stuffing defense i.e. NY Giants, Steelers, Patriots, etc. Funny how those teams are play-off contenders/champions ... Anyway, should be a sold year for DE's & DT's ... juicy!!! ;o)
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i could live with a colts type of draft where we pick up a high impact skill player but follow with back to back dlinemen. but only if that player was like a corner or somebody with rediculous talent like a calvin johnson. that being said....i want DE, DT, and OL and nothing but that in rounds 1-7.
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Sadly our secondary needs to be addressed. They are terrible. Honestly if we go BPA again all the way through I won't be disappointed.
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Sadly enough, in addition to Dline & secondary our WR core needs an upgrade too in 2010. Megatron & Pettigrew are SOLID. However, Derrick Williams is unproven so far in the slot and Northcutt & B. Johnson may only be 1 year fill-in guys that are here to showcase their talents and skate out of town. We seem to have a WR epidemic. Weird.
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The Lions obviously need a kicker. Jason Hanson is obviously on his way out. We should try to tpick one up in the first or second round. Kickers usually score the most points on the team so we need a good one.
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The Lions obviously need a kicker. Jason Hanson is obviously on his way out. We should try to tpick one up in the first or second round. Kickers usually score the most points on the team so we need a good one.
Actually we should trade up regardless of position to get one.
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Jason Hanson was a second rounder back in 92. One of the few kickers worth a second round pick probably.
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Really guys are you seriously discussing a 1st/2nd round pick on a kicker for the Lions? Granted Hanson just had minor surgery and his kick offs are not what they used to be ... BUT he is arguably coming off his best year, certainly one of his most accurate years.

Besides, we have plenty of holes like youth at CB, at LT (Backus is average & getting up there) and our Dline is suspect with Jackson & Hill. Plenty of draft talent at those 3 positions to fill our #1, #2 & #3 picks in 2010 ... not spending one on a kicker.
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Really guys are you seriously discussing a 1st/2nd round pick on a kicker for the Lions? Granted Hanson just had minor surgery and his kick offs are not what they used to be ... BUT he is arguably coming off his best year, certainly one of his most accurate years.

Besides, we have plenty of holes like youth at CB, at LT (Backus is average & getting up there) and our Dline is suspect with Jackson & Hill. Plenty of draft talent at those 3 positions to fill our #1, #2 & #3 picks in 2010 ... not spending one on a kicker.
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My bad. lol.

Back to real draft ideas ... DB is a must. I am sick of other teams FA scraps as our stop gap corners. How long will this continue? That is no way to build in the NFL. For depth and injury protection I agree that guys like Anthony Henry, Marquand Manuel & Eric King make sense. But it is well documented how this organization has fired and missed on just about every draft pick the last half dozen years and are now forced to over use the waiver wire to fill such a key position on the field.
Here's proof ...
Of the 10 men in the defensive backfield on the active Lions 3 deep roster, just 1 guy is a product of a Lions draft and it's Delmas.

There are several S (that are not top 10 picks like Mays or Berry) and plenty of CB's that we need to study up on. With Rogers in GB & Cutler in Chicago it is a must to put another S and a CB back there with Delmas to compete with these arms. (I left rocking chair Favre out b/c he will only be there this year)
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How would Mays or Berry compliment Delmas? I don't know much about them as prospects.
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Really guys are you seriously discussing a 1st/2nd round pick on a kicker for the Lions? Granted Hanson just had minor surgery and his kick offs are not what they used to be ... BUT he is arguably coming off his best year, certainly one of his most accurate years.

Besides, we have plenty of holes like youth at CB, at LT (Backus is average & getting up there) and our Dline is suspect with Jackson & Hill. Plenty of draft talent at those 3 positions to fill our #1, #2 & #3 picks in 2010 ... not spending one on a kicker.
No, I'm not serious. Just sarcastically playing up an idiotic post. I'll repeat what I wanted for last years draft:

1a. DLINE
1b. OLINE

I'll take Hanson's replacement in free agency (either undrafted kicker or a pro FA). Kickers aren't worth draft picks.

CBs are fine, but getting a good CB before a good defensive line is like a cow in sexy lingerie. Even the good CBs can't cover forever, and if we can't get to the QB then money on a good CB is wasted.

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I was hell bent on DT but DE is looking bad too. Where was Avril? White? Only one game and it was the number one O last year but yikes. I think the game plan was to only rush four because of Brees capabilities but that gameplan must change.
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I was hell bent on DT but DE is looking bad too. Where was Avril? White? Only one game and it was the number one O last year but yikes. I think the game plan was to only rush four because of Brees capabilities but that gameplan must change.
They had a backup LT playing as well.
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How would Mays or Berry compliment Delmas? I don't know much about them as prospects.
I think Berry would get to more balls in the secondary than Mays and where the Lions are going to be picking (unfortunately) you would probably be taking Mays too early.

OT is where i figured they'd go first but after that defensive performance yesterday i'm not sure. Gonna need more games to settle the 1st pick debate.
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the saints are kind of exotic and really exposed our flaws. the vikings game will go along way towards showing what our more immediate needs are. can we stop the run? and can we stop a 40 year old qb? the vikings aren't exactly going to be throwing the ball 60 times.
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This game could have been a lot worse. We left a lot of points out on the field as well.
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No, I'm not serious. Just sarcastically playing up an idiotic post. I'll repeat what I wanted for last years draft:

1a. DLINE
1b. OLINE

I'll take Hanson's replacement in free agency (either undrafted kicker or a pro FA). Kickers aren't worth draft picks.

CBs are fine, but getting a good CB before a good defensive line is like a cow in sexy lingerie. Even the good CBs can't cover forever, and if we can't get to the QB then money on a good CB is wasted.
Well the answer to our prayers has arrived my friend, DE Turk McBride (former 2nd rd pk of KC) is now a Lion. Our pass rusher extraordinaire has arrived via the "we no longer want you" wire... (gulp)

I hear ya ... former lineman here myself who banged my head against the wall going into last years draft about wanting this organization to build up front with the big uglies. Run the football stop the run like Mayhew/schwartz mentioned at coaches first press conference. It will happen. Pettigrew pick may haunt us. That was an ideal spot for a Beatty/Britton/Oher pick or Peria Jerry but we'll see ...
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I know what you mean about going OT/DT, but Pettigrew is said to be like an extra OT out there. He'll definitely help run the football. It's not like he's strictly a pass catching TE like Shawn Nelson.
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Good thing it's a good year for DT's in the first round (seemingly).
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I know what you mean about going OT/DT, but Pettigrew is said to be like an extra OT out there. He'll definitely help run the football. It's not like he's strictly a pass catching TE like Shawn Nelson.
Not good enough imho. A top 20 pick for a TE needs to equate to a top 3 in the league producer at that position to justify it. Especially on an 0-16 team full of holes! The stakes are too high. Witten, Gates, Clark, Pettigrew should be fantasy order for TE's. He was hardly the #3 producer in that game Sunday behind Shockey & Heller!! Granted he's a rookie, and a hell of a kid I hear BUT I think the organization put Brandon Pettigrew behind the 8 ball before he played a down in this league. He could still be a tremendous talent but a top 20 pick on a TE is a luxury pick worthy of a team with only a few holes to fill. NOT a pick to be made by a team containing one of the statistically worst defenses in league history! There will be a TE safety blanket for Stafford next year. Make the argument that Peria Jerry or Ziggy Hood would not have been a higher need or BPA pick for Detroit?
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I don't know what their Draft Board looked like. Maybe they had Brandon Pettigrew ranked #8 Overall and had Michael Oher ranked #25 or so. I'm pretty sure they said they were going BPA all along.. Not BPA according to Mel Kiper, Todd McShay or Scott Wright's draft board, but BPA according to them.
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