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Old 01-27-2010, 08:28 PM    (permalink
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I think Price will be available in the 2nd round. He isn't a great fit for alot of teams and there is a far too much of talent that is worthy of going in the 1st round.
As I said earlier in this thread I strongly disagree with that notion, dude's dominated the PAC-10 the way Sed Ellis did on his charge into the top 10. Add to that some damn near elite athleticism, good size and strength and I think he's easily a top 20 pick.
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I WANT MYRON ROLLE.
that's it. take Price early and Rolle round 2 or 3. He's climbing that high. I want him badly.
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I WANT MYRON ROLLE.
that's it. take Price early and Rolle round 2 or 3. He's climbing that high. I want him badly.
Is Rolle going to play this year? I know he is eligilble for the draft, but wasn't he going to go to England to be a Rhodes scholar.
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He did that last year.
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Rolle supposedly looks excellent so far. Wouldn't mind him at all in Round 2 or 3.
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I really hope we can get a stellar DT in this draft, we have never had a big bad mean DT, and I want one. I want a guy who can take up space to help our LBs, and can also get to the QB
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I agree with Scotty I want to draft Rolle
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Rolle is going to have to test very well on top of those impressive intangibles to get picked in the first two rounds with the talent at safety in this draft. He was a dud in college and isn't a great athlete, he's smart and can clearly bust his ass at something he's dedicated to but is his upside really as good as someone like Nate Allen who's bigger, more athletic and already a better safety than him? I wouldn't be opposed to rolle in round 4 if we shift Ross over to FS but I don't think he'll be more than a solid starter at best.
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Rolle is an intriguing prospect. On 1 hand, he can be a nice box safety to compliment Phillips. Also, his intelligence is definitely helpful, it will help avoid so much confusion we had in the secondary when Kenny went down and having 2 guys who know how to line everyone up is valuable. Good character guy, smart, and decent athlete.

On the other hand, you question how much he wants to play this game, his cameras that follow him around can be a distraction, he was largely ineffective as a player on the field, and there are better safeties out there.

So I don't know what to make of him yet.
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I just love him, and have been saying it before his good senior bowl workouts. He's incredibly smart and well spoken and will fit this team perfectly and is a great compliment to KP. He just fits. I've got a great feeling about him, I really do, despite his year off...
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The problem is, he's a nice compliment to Kenny. But we have to approach the safety position as if Kenny isn't ever coming back. Because if he's never the same, we have the same old problem again.

Its a sticky situation.

Me personally, I'm getting infatuated with Dan Williams. its not the sexy pick, but the guy reminds me of Pat Williams. And a guy like that would do WONDERS for our defense.

Trade back and land Dan Williams and Brandon Spikes. Sounds like a plan.
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Im not digging Oghabasse. I saw more of him, and I'm not a fan.

Need to see some Price. I really think Dan Williams is just what we need though.
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Im not digging Oghabasse. I saw more of him, and I'm not a fan.

Need to see some Price. I really think Dan Williams is just what we need though.
Williams scares me. He needs to be motivated constantly from what I understand. I don't want players like that on the Giants.
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Williams scares me. He needs to be motivated constantly from what I understand. I don't want players like that on the Giants.
every big DT gets that stigma thrown on them coming out. if they were always motivated, they'd be 300 lbs instead of 330.

But we need one of those big guys. we've ignored that problem for far too long.
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every big DT gets that stigma thrown on them coming out. if they were always motivated, they'd be 300 lbs instead of 330.

But we need one of those big guys. we've ignored that problem for far too long.
That's not really true. Not saying he's better but you don't here any concerns about Price like you do for Williams.
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That's not really true. Not saying he's better but you don't here any concerns about Price like you do for Williams.
Well, maybe he can fall to the 2nd then. At that point, why not?

We're running some form of Tampa 2, and it seems like Williams thrived in that front. And we hired a Tampa line coach. So the pieces of the puzzle are adding up. Maybe Williams will just fit in with what we are doing.

He isn't my first choice, but I wouldn't mind him. I really have no idea what we are doing this year. We can go in a # of different directions.
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Keep an eye on Anthony Davis and Trent Williams. 1 of the 2 could fall to 15, and I wouldn't mind either of them.

Davis would make a great LT. Williams, Id rather have at RT and move Beatty to LT.

But either way, we'll have bookend Tackles for years to come if we get one of those 2 in the 1st. And thats never a bad thing.
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If we take a safety at 15, it better be Earl Thomas. Unless Berry magically falls to 15 which will never happen.

But Thomas is the 2nd best safety on the board.
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BBD, there's ZERO chance Davis falls to us. Top 8 at the worst
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BBD, there's ZERO chance Davis falls to us. Top 8 at the worst
We can always trade up. According to Vacchiano Beatty is going to move to RT for McKenzie so LT might be up for grabs.
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Zak, if we trade up for Davis...my lord we're tearing this place apart...in a good way. you too BBD. We'll go insane. I'll cry tears of joy
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I'd be ecstatic. Not to throw cold water on it though I have read that Reese didn't take Britt because he didn't want him to be close to home where all his friends would be. Hopefully that wasn't true though.
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I am actually thinking Brian Price in the 1st round

Rolle would be nice in the mid rounds, assuming his speed checks out ok

I think we could go with a couple of safeties in the draft. There is a ton of talent there.

Perhaps Rolle in the 4th/5th round and someone like Chad Jones in the 2nd round
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Part of me thinks we can get Mays in the 2nd round now. I hate taking DTs in the first though, and there is no way Coughlin trusts a rookie MLB, so unless McLain drops, I'd draft the top OL on the board at 15
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why would we move Beatty to RT when his strength by far is pass protection? His run blocking is not great.
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